2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[Wamu]

Seems you moved to Colorado, you know what I'm saying lol...

Dammit stop reminding me I moved to CO. It's bad enough I'm still here! I wanted to stay in the Vegas area. But my wife & I didn't want your youngest son going to jr. high & H.S. out there.

 

[dtgold88]

I will tell ya- Maarkanen, Sexton, Agbaji, 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps is a heavy heavy price to pay- and some day that bill will come due---- but it looks like so far it has been worth it.

How the trade will ultimately be judged years from now is how successful the Cavs are with Mitchell, and if they can keep the team together and make sure those picks and swaps are not high level picks- at least not most of them. I think the last pick is due in 2029 which is obviously so far away---- so by then who knows. On the bright side- Mobley will only be 29 then and the best player in basketball

but seriously- if they can make have some deep playoffs runs, and make a Finals or two, and maybe win one- it will obviously be well worth it--- but so much depends on 1. Mitchell resigning after his 3 years. 2. Mobley developing into the top level player that he has the potential to be and signing long term.

If Mitchell and Mobley re-sign it will be worth it it all likelihood. If they do not- it will get very very hairy and the Cavs will be looking at a protracted period of irrelevance in the late 2020's-early 2030's.

For a market like Cleveland though- I think you have to take the chance when you hit on picks like Mobley, Garland, and get Allen.

We know Gilbert will spend to keep this team together and the cap keeps going up.

And while it sure looks like Mitchell genuinely likes playing here and with these teammates ya never know until he agrees to stay and signs. No reason to think the guys he ran laps on the golf course for not being in the deal (Garland, Mobley and Allen) wont still be here in 3 years, though.

way LM is playing I doubt the Jazz regret it.

 

[Wamu]

I've driven thru a few times, but only stopped when necessary. We did go to Cincinnati a few times for sports memorabilia conventions in the 90s, as well as Cedar Point as kids (a long time ago, lol).

Only been to Cincy twice for Browns games. As far as Cedar Point. Been there many times. A great amusement park.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The really funny part would be if NY vs Cleveland happens in the playoffs....

that would not be as funny as it would be great for Cleveland.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Are the Knicks better than the Cavs today?

Of course not.

What I have said, and what I stand by is that the Knicks are more likely to win a title next.

Because as good as the Cavs core is, I am still betting on the field.

And someday Dolan will sell the team, the Knicks will get competent management and it is just a huge upper hand being in that market vs Cleveland.

And you know all this.

But we can make a bet if you want on the Cavs.

As much Vcash as you want. You take the Cavs for as long as Garland and Mobley are on the roster, I take the field.

If the Cavs win a ring, you win. If they don’t, I win.

Taking that bet on any one team in todays environment- even a team like the Celtics is obviously a bad bet

and then you spout off about "100 years" when the NBa has not even existed for a 100 years? It is incredible how full of shit you are.

I absolutely think its more likely the Cavs win a title before the Knicks. I will ABSOLUTELY take that bet now, when you first spouted your bullshit, or 5 years from now---- but then you turn it into a bet about Garland and Mobley and just the Cavs and leave the Knicks out of it because you can clearly see that situation is not going anywhere any time soon.

How many titles do the Knicks have in their history of a franchise? YAH BIG upperhand! just enormous.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Defending champion Warriors are one game ahead of the Lakers.

Lakers are at least down 3 of their top 4 contributors currently.

Defending Champion Warriors have a legit path to improvement with Health.

What are the Lakers with everyone available?

AD went Wilt and you still can’t sniff .500.

 

[WiggyRuss]

It isn’t just 1 city.

There are a few bottom tier markets I am betting against always.

Cleveland is just one.

Sacramento, Minnesota, etc.

you would have said the same thing about Milwaukee. You would have said the same thing about the Spurs before their dynasty. Cleveland before their championship.

Its just pure nonsense at this point.

 

[Black Adam]

Taking that bet on any one team in todays environment- even a team like the Celtics is obviously a bad bet

and then you spout off about "100 years" when the NBa has not even existed for a 100 years? It is incredible how full of shit you are.

I absolutely think its more likely the Cavs win a title before the Knicks. I will ABSOLUTELY take that bet now, when you first spouted your bullshit, or 5 years from now---- but then you turn it into a bet about Garland and Mobley and just the Cavs and leave the Knicks out of it because you can clearly see that situation is not going anywhere any time soon.

How many titles do the Knicks have in their history of a franchise? YAH BIG upperhand! just enormous.

^^^expected^^^...

 

[dtgold88]

I know. He bragging up a guy making 30 mill for a guy off the bench.

Not ideal for most teams.

your team could sure use him....but he might start on the Lakers. Kind of a good thing we don't need him to?

 

[tlance]

Taking that bet on any one team in todays environment- even a team like the Celtics is obviously a bad bet

and then you spout off about "100 years" when the NBa has not even existed for a 100 years? It is incredible how full of shit you are.

I absolutely think its more likely the Cavs win a title before the Knicks. I will ABSOLUTELY take that bet now, when you first spouted your bullshit, or 5 years from now---- but then you turn it into a bet about Garland and Mobley and just the Cavs and leave the Knicks out of it because you can clearly see that situation is not going anywhere any time soon.

How many titles do the Knicks have in their history of a franchise? YAH BIG upperhand! just enormous.

But that is all I have ever said.

That I am betting NY wins a title before Cleveland.

That is it.

So fine, I bet the Knicks win before Cleveland.

But I don’t think that is anytime in the next 10-15 years.

And Only mentioned the Garland/Mobley core years because you are out here crowing like I am wrong when very clearly I am not.

Unless Cleveland wins a title.

 

[Black Adam]

Defending Champion Warriors have a legit path to improvement with Health.

What are the Lakers with everyone available?

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Bricks have been in existence for almost 30 more years than the Cavs, have one more title, and have been to less NBa Finals.

HUGE ADVANTAGE. The Spurs were an expansion team and not in a huge market and wipe their ass with the Knicks. The Cavs- since the Cavs actually came into existence, have a more storied history in 50+ years of basketball.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

But, all we have heard is the rest of the Lakers roster is trash but the W's hav this great group of youngsters....no?

Your roster is trash.

Not sure how that’s debatable.

Bron is Bron.

AD is a monster. But, can’t be depended on.

Walker has been really good, Reaves too.

Everyone else is canon fodder.

As for the Dubs, I know I overestimated the youngster’s ability to take the next step.

Those Dudes are nowhere near where they should be.

 

[WiggyRuss]

But that is all I have ever said.

That I am betting NY wins a title before Cleveland.

That is it.

So fine, I bet the Knicks win before Cleveland.

But I don’t think that is anytime in the next 10-15 years.

And Only mentioned the Garland/Mobley core years because you are out here crowing like I am wrong when very clearly I am not.

Unless Cleveland wins a title.

your Wizsards are in a MUCH bigger market.....I am sure you would say the same thing about them too huh?

I think you need to get it through your skull that market used to mean a lot- and the impact of market keeps on getting less and less as the NBA develops as a league.

 

[tlance]

you would have said the same thing about Milwaukee. You would have said the same thing about the Spurs before their dynasty. Cleveland before their championship.

Its just pure nonsense at this point.

Milwaukee yes. Utah yes.

San Antonio no.

It is the cold weather small markets. That is what I have always said.

Yes Cleveland bucked it once with LeBron, and Milwaukee once with Giannis. It clearly isnt impossible. Have never once said that it was.

Not impossible, just something I will always bet against. And I will take the 1 in twenty years when I am wrong and bet that 1 won’t be Cleveland.

 

[thunderc]

Defending Champion Warriors have a legit path to improvement with Health.

What are the Lakers with everyone available?

AD went Wilt and you still can’t sniff .500.

He might really be going Wilt now that he doesn’t have to play basketball.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Milwaukee yes. Utah yes.

San Antonio no.

It is the cold weather small markets. That is what I have always said.

Yes Cleveland bucked it once with LeBron, and Milwaukee once with Giannis. It clearly isnt impossible. Have never once said that it was.

Not impossible, just something I will always bet against. And I will take the 1 in twenty years when I am wrong and bet that 1 won’t be Cleveland.

I never said they would win it- I said it was just more likely. And it is.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Not bad, considering the Magic have won 7 out of 10, including the Celtics twice and the Clips.

Yeah.

But, the Lakers can’t beat either of those teams.

Which is one hell of an indictment considering you have 3 future hof players.

 

[tlance]

your Wizsards are in a MUCH bigger market.....I am sure you would say the same thing about them too huh?

I think you need to get it through your skull that market used to mean a lot- and the impact of market keeps on getting less and less as the NBA develops as a league.

Market still means a lot.

How else do you explain the Lakers in 2020?

Totally incompetent management and yet they won a title.

But obviously a market like Washington isn’t winning with incompetent management. They haven’t had strong ownership in 40 years.

Cleveland is well managed. And I still don’t think they are winning.

Neither do you.

 

[fightinfunbags]

your Wizsards are in a MUCH bigger market.....I am sure you would say the same thing about them too huh?

I think you need to get it through your skull that market used to mean a lot- and the impact of market keeps on getting less and less as the NBA develops as a league.

That’s because there isn’t true free agency in a salary cap league.