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What does overachieved mean? There's your answer.
TOY hilarious.

That made no sense. It means... evidently, that you have the best record from start to finish??? But it doesn’t. How does a team that clearly established itself as the best team, #1 on everybody’s power rankings, first team to get a 1 seed, the best record in the league kept winning throughout the playoffs.
Imagine Dallas having the best record in the entire NFL, #1 on everybody’s power rankings and go on to keep winning earning a SB victory and I said, “They were lucky and overachieved”.
You, Schmoopy, Jarntt, PDay and Handi would have a fucking melt down.
 

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That made no sense. It means... evidently, that you have the best record from start to finish??? But it doesn’t. How does a team that clearly established itself as the best team, #1 on everybody’s power rankings, first team to get a 1 seed, the best record in the league kept winning throughout the playoffs.
Imagine Dallas having the best record in the entire NFL, #1 on everybody’s power rankings and go on to keep winning earning a SB victory and I said, “They were lucky and overachieved”.
You, Schmoopy, Jarntt, PDay and Handi would have a fucking melt down.


You truly are a simple minded twat.
 

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That made no sense. It means... evidently, that you have the best record from start to finish??? But it doesn’t. How does a team that clearly established itself as the best team, #1 on everybody’s power rankings, first team to get a 1 seed, the best record in the league kept winning throughout the playoffs.
Imagine Dallas having the best record in the entire NFL, #1 on everybody’s power rankings and go on to keep winning earning a SB victory and I said, “They were lucky and overachieved”.
You, Schmoopy, Jarntt, PDay and Handi would have a fucking melt down.

Please tell me your definition of overachieving.
 

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That made no sense. It means... evidently, that you have the best record from start to finish??? But it doesn’t. How does a team that clearly established itself as the best team, #1 on everybody’s power rankings, first team to get a 1 seed, the best record in the league kept winning throughout the playoffs.
Imagine Dallas having the best record in the entire NFL, #1 on everybody’s power rankings and go on to keep winning earning a SB victory and I said, “They were lucky and overachieved”.
You, Schmoopy, Jarntt, PDay and Handi would have a fucking melt down.
Well, maybe not EVERYBODY'S

NFL Power Rankings, Week 17: Chiefs back in top 10; Eagles fall
 

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That made no sense. It means... evidently, that you have the best record from start to finish??? But it doesn’t. How does a team that clearly established itself as the best team, #1 on everybody’s power rankings, first team to get a 1 seed, the best record in the league kept winning throughout the playoffs.
Imagine Dallas having the best record in the entire NFL, #1 on everybody’s power rankings and go on to keep winning earning a SB victory and I said, “They were lucky and overachieved”.
You, Schmoopy, Jarntt, PDay and Handi would have a fucking melt down.
But, is it really deserving of such a dramatic response from you and isn't it fair for one to think they were at least a little lucky and overachieved a little when even their fans (albeit bandwagon ones from AZ) declared a few weeks earlier that they will NOT win a SB that year?

You literally just said this at about the same time in another thread:

I emphatically said that. Most did. Thank the lord I was wrong. Foles never even had a playoff win up to that point and had just been awful in LA. Dude has a HUGE heart.
 

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The AFC has been a disgrace for years.

The Patriots have had it easy.


The only team to really cause the Patriots problems recently have been the Broncos when Manning was there..... Other than that it's been all Patriots in the AFC, 8 straight AFC championship games.... Baltimore got um pretty good in 2013 and that's the only other team to beat them in the AFC title game besides Denver who did it twice in 2014 and 2016.....
 

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Please tell me your definition of overachieving.

When you do better then the accumulation of talent you have. When a team wins ALL year long and ranked #1 in every power ranking. When you finish the season with the best record in the entire NFL and a one seed and would have finished the entire season at 17-2 if they didn’t play their 3rd string QB and reserves the last week they didn’t over achieve. They were the best team all season long.
 

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But, is it really deserving of such a dramatic response from you and isn't it fair for one to think they were at least a little lucky and overachieved a little when even their fans (albeit bandwagon ones from AZ) declared a few weeks earlier that they will NOT win a SB that year?

You literally just said this at about the same time in another thread:

1. I lived and was born in Philly for the majority of my life. If you moved away from New York to Boston I wouldn’t expect you to drop your Yankees and now be a Red Sox fan so that makes no sense. You’re reaching trying to find away to justify being a Cowboy fan.
2. I thought the Eagles were cooked because they lost their MVP quarterback and Foles looked like shit when he finished up the season. Foles one hundred percent overachieved.
The rest of the team was great all year. When Wentz was in the Eagles were #1 all season long. I didn’t know Foles had that ability.
3. The only reason I’m bringing this up is the night we won the SB Manster immediately changed his avatar to 5>1. His first post was the Eagles were lucky and overachieved. Like I said. If Dallas was #1 the majority of the season in the power rankings, had the 1 seed, only lost 2 games all season, had the best record in the NFL and you guys won the SN and I posted, 13>6 (playoff wins) then said Dallas got lucky and overachieved you’d have a fucking conniption!
 

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When you do better then the accumulation of talent you have. When a team wins ALL year long and ranked #1 in every power ranking. When you finish the season with the best record in the entire NFL and a one seed and would have finished the entire season at 17-2 if they didn’t play their 3rd string QB and reserves the last week they didn’t over achieve. They were the best team all season long.
Here's the thing. Talent wise the Eagles overachieved ALL Year. That final win was part of the overachieving
 

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Here's the thing. Talent wise the Eagles overachieved ALL Year. That final win was part of the overachieving

Team was loaded with talent bro. MVP QB, #2 run game, top OLine, top DLine. All Pros and Pro Bowlers all over the place. Come on. If you keep winning and winning and winning its impossible to overachieve. They were just fucking good.
 

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Here's the thing. Talent wise the Eagles overachieved ALL Year. That final win was part of the overachieving

We should really be talking about another team loaded with stars that underachieves year after year.
 

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We should really be talking about another team loaded with stars that underachieves year after year.
It's not just me saying they overachieved. Again when a good portion of the team plays better than it's talent level it's called overachieving.

https://sportshoop.la/flying-high-overachieving-eagles-jets-monday/2017/10/17/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...kins-final-score-20171023.html?outputType=amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...eady-rank-as-nfl-win-total-overachievers/amp/
 

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How about this. I can agree to call the 2017 Eagles overachievers if you call the 2000-2019 Cowboys underachievers. Deal? Two one seeds recently equaled zero playoff wins.
 

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I think the only real argument that Philly overachieved in 17 depends on how you view Wentz . I know Eagles fans think he's elite and he may well be but factually he's been pretty average on every season other than 17. Now there are mitigating factors like being a rookie in 16 and coming off injury last year so it's too early to make that call in my opinion BUT

You could say Philly overachieved in 17 IF you believe Wentz isn't a MVP level QB consistently . Otherwise i don't see it as none of their other guys really had hugely abnormal spikes on production . Now if you're just talking playoffs I think everyone would say they overachieved but that is solely based on what people expected from. Foles
 

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How about this. I can agree to call the 2017 Eagles overachievers if you call the 2000-2019 Cowboys underachievers. Deal? Two one seeds recently equaled zero playoff wins.
I'm OK with that. If course there's only two years out of those I thought Dallas had any chance at a SB. Hell I'd even say there's a couple of Cowboys overachieved seasons in that time frame.
 

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I think the only real argument that Philly overachieved in 17 depends on how you view Wentz . I know Eagles fans think he's elite and he may well be but factually he's been pretty average on every season other than 17. Now there are mitigating factors like being a rookie in 16 and coming off injury last year so it's too early to make that call in my opinion BUT

You could say Philly overachieved in 17 IF you believe Wentz isn't a MVP level QB consistently . Otherwise i don't see it as none of their other guys really had hugely abnormal spikes on production . Now if you're just talking playoffs I think everyone would say they overachieved but that is solely based on what people expected from. Foles
The QB's, receivers OL, and DBs overachieved the most. Their DL and TE were fully legit. LB's played on par of there talent.
 

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Team was loaded with talent bro. MVP QB, #2 run game, top OLine, top DLine. All Pros and Pro Bowlers all over the place. Come on. If you keep winning and winning and winning its impossible to overachieve. They were just fucking good.

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