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Has LeBron been surpassed?

tducey

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A lot of great young talent in the league right now. Still Lebron, at 34, is still the gold standard for the NBA.
 

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Easy one for me to make as I watched 4 seasons with him where at best the regular season was painful to watch. All year it was "you cannot just turn it on and off". Then they would go from off to on in the playoffs. and they would do it by beating top seeds on the road, including GS once.

He looks kinda broken down tho...It's different from what i have seen from him in those other years

Watch when he jumps, he barely gets off the ground lol....Maybe i am wrong, but i think father time has finally caught up with him. With that said Giannis needs to prove himself in the playoffs or he is just putting up a spectacular regular season...
 

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I read about all these greatest players in the NBA. I rarely see Joelle Embiid mentioned. He eats some of those guys for lunch when they play against each other. He tears up AD. In a year or two, he will be the best player in the NBA.
 

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I read about all these greatest players in the NBA. I rarely see Joelle Embiid mentioned. He eats some of those guys for lunch when they play against each other. He tears up AD. In a year or two, he will be the best player in the NBA.

Possible.

He was most defintely the best player on the court today in Philly.
 

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Possible.

He was most definitely the best player on the court today in Philly.
He has been the best player on the court in just about every game. The other note he was sick. He dominates just about every game.
 

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He has been the best player on the court in just about every game. The other note he was sick. He dominates just about every game.

For some reason he brings out the best in Westbrook, wish they played more lol.
 

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No, he's still the best player. But, it's not as wide a gap as it used to be and can actually be debated.
 

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For some reason he brings out the best in Westbrook, wish they played more lol.
They don't even play the same position. Just about every guard in the NBA get career highs against the 6ers.
 

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You really don't think Giannis has surpassed LeBron? He is about equal to LBJ offensively, but much better defensively.

If we're talking best overall player.....

James makes 36% of his treys.

Giannis 22%.

They aren't equal offensively....
 

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Fucking ninja'd left and right in this thread....
 

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Lebron is still at the top. The gap is definitely a lot more narrow than it used to be though.

Until Harden learns to play defense he is not going to come close. Hell, maybe if he even TRIED to play defense he'd be more discussed in this topic.

But, Harden might be one of the most amazing offensive players of all-time. He's really incredible.
 

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Lebron isn't even top 5 in the league now. Top 6-7 at best. If Leonard put some real effort in in previous years, Lebron wouldn't have been the best in the game for the past 3-4 years.

Holy shit.....:lol:
 

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They don't even play the same position. Just about every guard in the NBA get career highs against the 6ers.

I know, apparently you haven’t noticed their feud.
 

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James numbers are on par with his career numbers....

26.7ppg this season, 27.1ppg career.

8.6rpg this season, 7.4 career.

7.4apg, 7.2.

51.6%, 50.4%

35.8%, 34.4%

67%, 74%

So, he's only down a little in ppg and FT %.


Still a beast.
 

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think it's just a matter of time till Giannis is the best player.....he truly is a freak for a big man like him.
 

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think it's just a matter of time till Giannis is the best player.....he truly is a freak for a big man like him.

And you have to wonder if he'll eventually want to leave and go to a team that will go balls to the wall to build a contender.
 

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James numbers are on par with his career numbers....

26.7ppg this season, 27.1ppg career.

8.6rpg this season, 7.4 career.

7.4apg, 7.2.

51.6%, 50.4%

35.8%, 34.4%

67%, 74%

So, he's only down a little in ppg and FT %.


Still a beast.

Sure.

His numbers are great. And he is still in the conversation at 34 which is amazing.

But the eye test just tells a different story. I haven't watched all the Laker games this year, but I have watched a few of the prime time matchups. LeBron gets his numbers because he is great and he knows how to play. But he isn't the dominating force he once was.

@mannyz made a great point about Embiid. Embiid controlled the flow of the game today. Their were times when LeBron was on the court and it wasn't really that noticeable. When I watch Giannis or Embiid, you always know when they are on the court.

Playoffs will probably be different. But today's version of regular season LeBron is not the best player in the league.
 
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