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Vance Joseph is the new Cardinals DC.
 

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Find a trade partner for Rosen such as Jacksonville and they could.

Doubt it. Rosen was the GM's pick and he's still there. Almost guaranteed that the new coach will be forced to work with Rosen.
 

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Find a trade partner for Rosen such as Jacksonville and they could.

Doubt it. Rosen was the GM's pick and he's still there. Almost guaranteed that the new coach will be forced to work with Rosen.

Rosen is not an air raid kind of qb and if Kliff doesn't see what he likes he might take Kyler #1 and mover Rosen. Would be crazy for OU to have back to back #1 picks though.
 

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Rosen is not an air raid kind of qb and if Kliff doesn't see what he likes he might take Kyler #1 and mover Rosen. Would be crazy for OU to have back to back #1 picks though.

KK ain't walking into that job with much power.....again...it was GM Keim who took the QB Rosen and I'm pretty damn positive that he told Kingsbury that it's his job to mold Rosen into something legit. I don't see any way that the HC is gonna go over the GM in this case and convince him to take Murray.
 

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Kliff Kingsbury, I bow to thee


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And then Kyler's contract, lol... Arizona is a mess. I can't recall if I graded the Murray contract on this forum but if I did it would've been a D or F. The Kingsbury signing I know I didn't grade, but I was absolutely floored when they resigned him. Why?

My only thought is Bidwell got drunk one night and was doing hookers and blow, and his lawyer called and was like, "Hey we need a decision on all of these contracts (GM/Coach/Murray)" and Bidwell was getting ready to sniff coke out of an asshole and was like, "Just extend them, Christ leave me alone." And then yah... we're here.
 

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And then Kyler's contract, lol... Arizona is a mess. I can't recall if I graded the Murray contract on this forum but if I did it would've been a D or F. The Kingsbury signing I know I didn't grade, but I was absolutely floored when they resigned him. Why?

My only thought is Bidwell got drunk one night and was doing hookers and blow, and his lawyer called and was like, "Hey we need a decision on all of these contracts (GM/Coach/Murray)" and Bidwell was getting ready to sniff coke out of an asshole and was like, "Just extend them, Christ leave me alone." And then yah... we're here.
Yup head scratching stuff. Murray still has a chance to be something, Kliff never sniffs a HC gig in the NFL again.

Need to get someone in who can develop Murray if it’s not too late with him.
 

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Yup head scratching stuff. Murray still has a chance to be something, Kliff never sniffs a HC gig in the NFL again.

Need to get someone in who can develop Murray if it’s not too late with him.

LOL.

A little quick on the trigger dont you think. They are coming off a playoff visit last year with a roster that is extremely spotty.

The guy on the hotseat shouldnt be Kingsbury right now. It should be Keim. This roster is riddled with holes. And they always have been. Guy has been in the general manager spot for damn near a decade now and doesnt have a really good draft to point at yet. How some GM's survive as long as they do is beyond me.

And yes you have to give the Card's GM a little more latitude than a normal GM because the Card's arent going to maximize spending. But even in that dept he has done a poor job of deciding who to pay for the most part.

The only two good things Keim as GM has done over the last 5 years to help the team is first let himself get convinced to give up on Rosen so quickly and second take a phone call from Bill O'brien. Other than that there is nothing really good about anything he has done.
 

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LOL.

A little quick on the trigger dont you think. They are coming off a playoff visit last year with a roster that is extremely spotty.

The guy on the hotseat shouldnt be Kingsbury right now. It should be Keim. This roster is riddled with holes. And they always have been. Guy has been in the general manager spot for damn near a decade now and doesnt have a really good draft to point at yet. How some GM's survive as long as they do is beyond me.

And yes you have to give the Card's GM a little more latitude than a normal GM because the Card's arent going to maximize spending. But even in that dept he has done a poor job of deciding who to pay for the most part.

The only two good things Keim as GM has done over the last 5 years to help the team is first let himself get convinced to give up on Rosen so quickly and second take a phone call from Bill O'brien. Other than that there is nothing really good about anything he has done.
Agree on the GM

In regards to Kliff:
Honestly I don’t think I’m being quick on the trigger at all. Yes playoffs last year, but they fell apart in the second half of the season and had a laughable playoff game.

Now he’s in year four and the offense just put up 3 against one of the worse defenses in the league. He was a failure as a HC in college. We knew he wouldn’t do well in the NFL
 

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Agree on the GM

In regards to Kliff:
Honestly I don’t think I’m being quick on the trigger at all. Yes playoffs last year, but they fell apart in the second half of the season and had a laughable playoff game.

Now he’s in year four and the offense just put up 3 against one of the worse defenses in the league. He was a failure as a HC in college. We knew he wouldn’t do well in the NFL

I was blown away Seattle got that much pressure. Pugh went out granted, but Beachum and Humphries are pretty decent tackles... and Hudson can still perform. Both offensive lines were playing terrible yesterday... I think you replay the game and it could go either way. That all said, Kliff has no clue wtf he's doing... When he blitzed Mahomes 60%+ of the snaps in the KC game.. it was apparent. Mahomes struggles against zone/drop back coverage, he is one of the best QBs against the blitz in the NFL. Yet Kliff? "Fuck it, we blitz!" :L
 

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I was blown away Seattle got that much pressure. Pugh went out granted, but Beachum and Humphries are pretty decent tackles... and Hudson can still perform. Both offensive lines were playing terrible yesterday... I think you replay the game and it could go either way. That all said, Kliff has no clue wtf he's doing... When he blitzed Mahomes 60%+ of the snaps in the KC game.. it was apparent. Mahomes struggles against zone/drop back coverage, he is one of the best QBs against the blitz in the NFL. Yet Kliff? "Fuck it, we blitz!" :L

Beachum hasnt been good since he left the Steelers.

He is a big reason I am pointing fingers at the GM and not the coach. He basically is a on a vet min contract to give you and idea what the rest of the league thinks of him and the Cards are penciling him in during the offseason to a starting spot. The fact that he was the best starting option for the Cards heading into this season is a complete failure of the GM position.

And then to top off the terrible OL, they have their RG also being filled out by basically vet min players that no one around the NFL really wanted in Hernandez as well.

To have 2 positions on the OL where there is absolutely nothing there in terms of talent and ability is a recipe for disaster. And that is the main reason Arizona is struggling on offense. Everyone in the league knew this was going to be one of the worst OL's in the league and here we are and somehow people are shocked.

And then you go down further on the roster and you start to see that they literally dont have anything waiting in the wings that they can bank on in future years either on the roster at OL. Which means this is going to be a problem that plagues them in the future and not just this year either.

If you brought the Card's GM up on a lawsuit right now, his treatment of the OL position no longer represent negligence as it has escalated to recklessness.
 

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LOL.

A little quick on the trigger dont you think. They are coming off a playoff visit last year with a roster that is extremely spotty.

The guy on the hotseat shouldnt be Kingsbury right now. It should be Keim. This roster is riddled with holes. And they always have been. Guy has been in the general manager spot for damn near a decade now and doesnt have a really good draft to point at yet. How some GM's survive as long as they do is beyond me.

And yes you have to give the Card's GM a little more latitude than a normal GM because the Card's arent going to maximize spending. But even in that dept he has done a poor job of deciding who to pay for the most part.

The only two good things Keim as GM has done over the last 5 years to help the team is first let himself get convinced to give up on Rosen so quickly and second take a phone call from Bill O'brien. Other than that there is nothing really good about anything he has done.
Kliff and Keim should be gone. I gave Kliff a fair shot and I am done with him. Keim is been decent with trades, but his drafting is horrible. I am done with both of them.

Murray can be great, he just needs to be developed at the NFL level.
 
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