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Andy Dalton and the Playoffs

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as a jet fan... Both of your teams suck!!!
 

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The Steelers haven't won since 2009. SO, in reality, Big Ben may have a great playoff record the last 10 years, but come Super Bowl Sunday for the last 10 years, Both QB's have been watching from home.
Another thing, most years the Bengals have been to the playoffs, the offensive has pretty much been drained due to injuries by playoff time and Dalton has had to throw to backups.
 

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Now we just need the Jags fans and Lions fans in here.
If you're including the Browns in a conversation with the league's worst teams, you'll need a lot more than just the Jags and Lions fans in here, considering we finished in the top half of the league record-wise.
 

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There's not much of an argument. We saw on the field this year who was obviously worse.

I think what @Myles is saying, maybe Browns fans should refrain from thumping their chests until they they have a couple of winning seasons and a AFCN title in their back pocket.
 

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If you're including the Browns in a conversation with the league's worst teams, you'll need a lot more than just the Jags and Lions fans in here, considering we finished in the top half of the league record-wise.
And then didn't promote the guy that turned it all around. Classic Brownies
 

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I think what @Myles is saying, maybe Browns fans should refrain from thumping their chests until they they have a couple of winning seasons and a AFCN title in their back pocket.
We're not comparing the Browns to the Patriots here. The Bengals are in total disarray. For crying out loud, they thought it was smart to bring in Hue Jackson after the Browns fired him.
 

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We're not comparing the Browns to the Patriots here. The Bengals are in total disarray. For crying out loud, they thought it was smart to bring in Hue Jackson after the Browns fired him.
Not in disarray, the Bengals are a very young team. With a young head coach and OC on the way in. They'll breath some life into a young Bengals team.
 

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We're not comparing the Browns to the Patriots here. The Bengals are in total disarray. For crying out loud, they thought it was smart to bring in Hue Jackson after the Browns fired him.
No shit.... But it's still possible the Browns step right back into the cellar next season.
 

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If you're including the Browns in a conversation with the league's worst teams, you'll need a lot more than just the Jags and Lions fans in here, considering we finished in the top half of the league record-wise.
I think what @Myles is saying, maybe Browns fans should refrain from thumping their chests until they they have a couple of winning seasons and a AFCN title in their back pocket.

A team that has been so bad historically needs more than one 7 win season before they should start proclaiming anything about being better than any team. Same with the Bengals. It really comes off as humorous when shitty teams are pumping their chests.
 

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No shit.... But it's still possible the Browns step right back into the cellar next season.
It's also possible that any team does. There's nothing suggesting it though.
 

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A team that has been so bad historically needs more than one 7 win season before they should start proclaiming anything about being better than any team. Same with the Bengals. It really comes off as humorous when shitty teams are pumping their chests.
It isn't like the Bengals set the bar high here. The Browns have more young talent than almost any team in the NFL right now, including a record-setting young QB. The Bengals have a massive choker at QB, their best offensive player is a 30-year old now injury prone player, and the defense is a total joke. Hell, we had the worst head coach in NFL history for half the year this year and still were a much better team.
 

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Let's see how defenses play Mayfield next season.
I mean, what do you think they're gonna do? It's not like he's Lamar Jackson, who was winning by running. He's not some unorthodox QB. He's just really, really good.
 

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Marvin couldnt win a game with Palmer, Ocho, Housh and Rudi. Why would he magically have won a game with Andy and the boys?

A lot of change coming within the division.

Ravens seem like a prohibitive favorite, but Harbaugh cant be there much longer regardless of contract. Yes, as a UK fan I hate Lamar and am biased, but he has to be able to pass or he is going to be done, and fast.

Steelers will always get the benefit of the doubt with me. This year a prime example. Total shitshow playing to their competition, still damn near made the playoffs even though they wouldnt have deserved it. Tomlin, Big Ben on his last legs, AB and Leveon drama....big change is coming.

Cleveland looks like they are ascending, and then they "do that" with their hire to keep Baker happy. Look, it might work out. I kinda hope it does, it feels good being able to fully hate them again. But any reasonable outsider looks at that and says why do you not give it to the guy who clearly earned it? Part of me hopes they go down in flames over it.

And then there's us. Way too many unknowns at this juncture. Still need a coach. Still need a secondary. Still need an offensive line. Still need to give Joe Mixon the ball more not less. Still need to shit or get off the pot with Andy.
 
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