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Let's change some fucking rules.

7Samurai13

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yeah i get that. Im saying why change that? Offense fucks up so the other team should be penalized by making them play out of their own end zone?
By that logic if you fumble anywhere on the field it should be a turnover regardless of who recovers. Or if you are at the 50 and tumble out of bounds it should change possession?
 

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I'll give you one that would radically alter the way the game is played.

Definition of "Possession."

Teams that score on a safety get to receive the kickoff because the ball never changed
"possession." A Safety and a successful on-side kick are the only two exceptions to
alternating possessions.

Make a Pick 6 or a returned fumble for a TD the same as a safety. Then the turnover would
really mean something.

You started the play with the ball in your possession...I took it from you and scored on that play.
It is now my turn for possession. (Current rules change possession the moment the ball is
picked-up or picked off).
By rule all kickoffs are a live ball meaning the kicking team can recover it. An “onside kick” is the name of the play. Theoretically if you kicked the ball deep and the receiving team let it bounce around the kicking team can still recover it.

After a safety it’s a “free kick” which is different than a kickoff. So your proposed rule change would require several other rule changes as well. IE not a good plan.
 

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Targeting anyone?

Get rid of it. Replace it with a rap rule like rugby. Simply if you do not attempt to rap the ball carrier it is an illegal tackle. That is something that defenders can actually control. Asking defenders to adjust in a split second on a moving target is asinine
 

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I just want them to make the right call, don't care how long it takes even though I sometimes wonder what takes so long.

The main thing is if two unbiased people look at the same replay and come up with two different conclusions, then there's no reason for the call to be reversed. I don't care if they get the right call, I think replay should be used to fix obvious mistakes and they're still not even always allowed to do that.
 

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yeah i get that. Im saying why change that? Offense fucks up so the other team should be penalized by making them play out of their own end zone?

Why should it go to the defense though? At no point did they gain possession of the ball, it just went out the back of their endzone. It should be treated like any fumble out of bounds.

If it goes out the back of the other endzone - it's a safety which is correct as possession never changed.
 

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Get rid of it. Replace it with a rap rule like rugby. Simply if you do not attempt to rap the ball carrier it is an illegal tackle. That is something that defenders can actually control. Asking defenders to adjust in a split second on a moving target is asinine
The ones I find most egregious are when it's called because the offensive player dives or scrunches down during the play and the defender, who's standing normally, gets helmet to helmet contact because of that and they're ejected. Like -- what? How are they supposed to adjust to that?
 

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Well your opinion is meaningless to me then.

My opinion has never meant anything to you. Several reviews are already wrong, several reviews are already overturned when they shouldn't be, and several things can't be reviewed. I'd like to scrap the replay altogether, but if we can shorten it to like a two minute delay because you see the replay once or twice and know it was the wrong call then we have the perfect system, in my opinion.
 

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No Beth Mowins, no Mack Brown anywhere near a microphone.

I would say for Beth to stuff her mouth with a dick but pretty sure she wants some flappy vagina in her mouth. Her voice makes me want to throw up
 

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The ones I find most egregious are when it's called because the offensive player dives or scrunches down during the play and the defender, who's standing normally, gets helmet to helmet contact because of that and they're ejected. Like -- what? How are they supposed to adjust to that?

The biggest reason to change it is because it penalizes the result, not the action. Launching yourself head first into the upper chest is 100% legal. Go 2 inches higher and get a piece of the face mask and it is an ejection. I am fine trying modify dangerous techniques, but hate the current format
 

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1. Get rid of targeting.

2. Need 2 feet in bounds for a completed catch.

3. No more starting at your opponent's 25 yd line in OT. Starting anywhere from your own 25 yd line to the 50 is fine but no farther than that.
 

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Why should it go to the defense though? At no point did they gain possession of the ball, it just went out the back of their endzone. It should be treated like any fumble out of bounds.

If it goes out the back of the other endzone - it's a safety which is correct as possession never changed.
oh i see what you are saying now. because the rule is what it is i read what you were saying as turnover to the other team on the one. but im with you now.
 

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The ones I find most egregious are when it's called because the offensive player dives or scrunches down during the play and the defender, who's standing normally, gets helmet to helmet contact because of that and they're ejected. Like -- what? How are they supposed to adjust to that?
tell defenders they need to stop trying to tackle a sliding player? run at them without putting your head down at all like i learned in middle school.
 

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1. Get rid of targeting.

2. Need 2 feet in bounds for a completed catch.

3. No more starting at your opponent's 25 yd line in OT. Starting anywhere from your own 25 yd line to the 50 is fine but no farther than that.
Start at the 40 and push it back 10 yards each overtime.
 

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Start at the 40 and push it back 10 yards each overtime.

I was thinking the 50, but you should need at least a first down to get into FG range
 

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I was thinking the 50, but you should need at least a first down to get into FG range
You are still looking at a 57 yard field goal, well outside of normal FG range. Most coaches would be wary to go for a 50 yarder.
 

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I see nothing wrong with OT rules. It puts a premium on your kicker to start @ the 25.

It may seem like an easy kick, but I thought Georgia had the advantage over us and did because of the their kicker vs our kicker in OT.

I could see adding 10 yards for each OT as being good for FG range, but you can really draw out a game that way and make them even longer. I say move them closer to the goal line 5 yards every OT. Makes it less about the kicker as OT goes on, which is also what they do when they force teams to go for 2.

But really, I like what we got. A few minor adjustments wouldn't bother me, but fuck anyone who suggests NFL rules are better.
 

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Only thing I can think of is changing the rule where if you fumble out of bounds in your opponents end zone it's a touch back, when it should just be put on the 1 yard line or whatever the point was that it was fumbled if further away(Ingram bounced one about 15 yards through the endzone against Auburn once).

This is a good rule, it shouldn't be changed. What's to stop a player at the 5 or 10 just throwing it through the end zone "fumbling" to get it at the 1???
 

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This is a good rule, it shouldn't be changed. What's to stop a player at the 5 or 10 just throwing it through the end zone "fumbling" to get it at the 1???

Can't advance a fumble, it goes back to the spot of the fumble.
 
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