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Embattled OC Darrell Bevell out according to reports.

Just made a whole lot of the fan base very happy.

Now if Cable is able to share a ride out of town that'd be great.
 

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Bevell should have been fired before they got on the plane home from the Superbowl he helped cost you. I could have told you that he was a complete hack since about midway through the 2006 season.
 

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If Cable isn't gone with him what's the point?

Tom Cable seems to have some kind of mythical offensive line knowledge according to someone, but he's been absolutely terrible at both evaluating and coaching talent. Polishing a turd does you no good if you're then left with a turd, and he's shown that he can even make non-turds look like turds.

I think a better o line coach with Bevell could still be successful, though not ideal, but the same o line coach with a different OC does nothing to address the main problem with the Seahawks.

What gives me the most optimism here is that Pete isn't afraid to fire someone and make changes. There were questions about whether or not his loyalty was too much of a crutch lately. This move says no.
 

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Jacked from OP for maximum likes:


 

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Don’t really care if Bevell is fired, but please please do not hire Sark. As mentioned, if Cable is keep, it really doesn’t matter who is OC, nobody can run a offense with a OL that can’t block and Cable has shown he can’t produce a average OL.
 

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The real question here is

How does this become a Patriots thread?
 

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Shoulda never been allowed on the plane after Lynch from the 1
 

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Shoulda never been allowed on the plane after Lynch from the 1

I still think not running the ball there wasn't a bad call, but a quick slant was the worst option. With a mobile QB like Wilson, use the play action pass. How many times have we seen him roll out, read the field, and improvise, letting someone come open or throw it away and live to play another down? That's his bread and butter.

Not letting Wilson play to his strength will always bother me more than not giving Lynch the ball on 1st down.
 

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If Cable isn't gone with him what's the point?

Tom Cable seems to have some kind of mythical offensive line knowledge according to someone, but he's been absolutely terrible at both evaluating and coaching talent. Polishing a turd does you no good if you're then left with a turd, and he's shown that he can even make non-turds look like turds.

I think a better o line coach with Bevell could still be successful, though not ideal, but the same o line coach with a different OC does nothing to address the main problem with the Seahawks.

What gives me the most optimism here is that Pete isn't afraid to fire someone and make changes. There were questions about whether or not his loyalty was too much of a crutch lately. This move says no.

Agree with this. I've never been anti-Bevell as I think this offense was always good when the OL was doing its job. But at this point Cable has shown zero ability to improve the line.
 

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I still think not running the ball there wasn't a bad call, but a quick slant was the worst option. With a mobile QB like Wilson, use the play action pass. How many times have we seen him roll out, read the field, and improvise, letting someone come open or throw it away and live to play another down? That's his bread and butter.

Not letting Wilson play to his strength will always bother me more than not giving Lynch the ball on 1st down.


Don't dis-agree

I've always said motioning Lynch wide, removing the threat of the run pass option was the most god awful thing I've ever seen

If they weren't gonna run, the play action, run pass option absolutely had to be in play
 

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If you would have told me 2 years ago that both the Seahawks and Packers would be house cleaning in the off season, I would have said you're nuts.
 

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a different point of view:suds:

Darrell Bevell - C - Free Agent
Seahawks fired OC Darrell Bevell.

Bevell had been the Seahawks' offensive coordinator for seven of coach Pete Carroll's eight seasons in Seattle. The 48-year-old has taken plenty of heat in the past but is probably most famous for calling a pass from the one-yard line in the 2014 Super Bowl when Russell Wilson was picked off by Malcolm Butler to win the title for the Patriots. Bevell has been unable to live that moment down, though overall he's been a fine offensive play-caller. GM John Schneider never really gave him an offensive line, and the rushing offense fell apart in 2017 with just one rushing touchdown from a running back. Whoever takes over the job gets perennial MVP candidate Wilson but not much else to work with no running backs or line and Jimmy Graham a free agent. Doug Baldwin turns 30 in September.
 

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a different point of view:suds:

Darrell Bevell - C - Free Agent
Seahawks fired OC Darrell Bevell.

Bevell had been the Seahawks' offensive coordinator for seven of coach Pete Carroll's eight seasons in Seattle. The 48-year-old has taken plenty of heat in the past but is probably most famous for calling a pass from the one-yard line in the 2014 Super Bowl when Russell Wilson was picked off by Malcolm Butler to win the title for the Patriots. Bevell has been unable to live that moment down, though overall he's been a fine offensive play-caller. GM John Schneider never really gave him an offensive line, and the rushing offense fell apart in 2017 with just one rushing touchdown from a running back. Whoever takes over the job gets perennial MVP candidate Wilson but not much else to work with no running backs or line and Jimmy Graham a free agent. Doug Baldwin turns 30 in September.

Just to provide some insight here, our former OC was still trying to use Jimmy Graham (which your quote cites as a net negative loss) in blocking situations. To say he was horrible would be an understatement. Picture a toddler trying to block a semi on the freeway. Sure he caught some TDs this year. He did absolutely nothing otherwise.
 

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Seahawks need to actually address drafting or chasing down true offensive lineman. Pay half as much attention to the offensive line as they do the D and it will work itself out.

And oh by the way, why the fuck did they ever get Blair Walsh????
 

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If you would have told me 2 years ago that both the Seahawks and Packers would be house cleaning in the off season, I would have said you're nuts.
Well I think everyone outside of Ted Thompson knew the Capers firing was looooooooooooooong overdue. Guess it took a violent shove to TT in order to get that done.
 

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Seahawks need to actually address drafting or chasing down true offensive lineman. Pay half as much attention to the offensive line as they do the D and it will work itself out.

And oh by the way, why the fuck did they ever get Blair Walsh????

James Carpenter played well for the Jets
Breno Giacomini was a fine RG even after his Seattle tenure
Max Unger is still the starting C for a team in the NFC Divisional round
Duane Brown is here now

It's not the drafting or the recognition. It's the coaching. These guys are regressing in the current system and it's clear to see from those who watch them regularly. Money has been thrown at the Oline, but the extension contract after the rookie deals are not being offered because the players are not being developed. Great prospects like Ryan Ramczyk are being passed over and guys who haven't played Tackle since middle school like George Fant are being forced in playing Left Tackle for a perennial NFL playoff team.

What there seems broken to you?
 

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James Carpenter played well for the Jets
Breno Giacomini was a fine RG even after his Seattle tenure
Max Unger is still the starting C for a team in the NFC Divisional round
Duane Brown is here now

It's not the drafting or the recognition. It's the coaching. These guys are regressing in the current system and it's clear to see from those who watch them regularly. Money has been thrown at the Oline, but the extension contract after the rookie deals are not being offered because the players are not being developed. Great prospects like Ryan Ramczyk are being passed over and guys who haven't played Tackle since middle school like George Fant are being forced in playing Left Tackle for a perennial NFL playoff team.

What there seems broken to you?


Unger for Graham has come back to haunt them badly
 
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