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In the last 6 weeks. The first 2 got really vicious when I told them to fuck off 'cuz I was working with my AV prgm and my anti-malware prgm and my computer knowledge. The last 3 have been laughable, telling me that they were Microsoft techs and demanding that I call them and pay them $500 and weirdly, saying that if I turned off my computer, they would report me to the authorities. Didn't have a clue what that meant, but I definitely turned off my computer. weird stuff and I think it's related to the Experian hacking.
 

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First of all it was Equifax that got hacked, not experian. Second of all that hack would be a reason to check for cards opened in your name, but has nothing to do with internet attacks.

Ransomware is still primarily delivered by social engineering. That is, if it's not clicking on a bad email then it's going to questionable web sites or clicking on rogue ads that lure you in and give you a virus.

In your case, you didn't actually have full blown ransomware in each of those cases. Having pop messages telling you not to turn off your PC or otherwise trying to scare you isn't actually ransomware. It's just plain old malware/spyware stuff that's been around for many many years. Rarely are those anything more than a bad popup from going to the wrong site. They do not typically leave anything bad on your machine. They are spear phishing trying to scare you into calling a number and giving them your info or access to your machine.

True actual ransomware infections encrypt most of your data files and tell you that you cannot get the key to open them without paying them money. The only way to rid yourself of full blown ransomware attacks is either to pay it, or restore all of your files from a backup source and start over. Turning off your machine would not clear it and I haven't seen any in recent years that could be restored by an AV app or other program. There are ways to help prevent them, but once you have them you are kind of screwed particularly if you do not have backups of your data. It's either pay or lose everything.

Most AV apps do not prevent spyware/malware and those annoying popups as they are not actually putting bad code on your machine. They are just scareware. Many anti malware also do not prevent those for the same reason. Popup blockers are a must these days anyway and there are add ons for many browsers that warn you of known sites that contain these annoying antics. Web of trust is one reputation based add on worth looking into.
 

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In the last 6 weeks. The first 2 got really vicious when I told them to fuck off 'cuz I was working with my AV prgm and my anti-malware prgm and my computer knowledge. The last 3 have been laughable, telling me that they were Microsoft techs and demanding that I call them and pay them $500 and weirdly, saying that if I turned off my computer, they would report me to the authorities. Didn't have a clue what that meant, but I definitely turned off my computer. weird stuff and I think it's related to the Experian hacking.

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Oh, so you think that's how you get ransomware. I don't do ****, let alone tranny ****, so I guess we just need to rely on your personal experience.
 

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My son lost his laptop because of ransomware. IMHO it was a good thing because he was getting divorced and said he was pissed about not being able to post revenge pron.
 

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First of all it was Equifax that got hacked, not experian. Second of all that hack would be a reason to check for cards opened in your name, but has nothing to do with internet attacks.

Ransomware is still primarily delivered by social engineering. That is, if it's not clicking on a bad email then it's going to questionable web sites or clicking on rogue ads that lure you in and give you a virus.

In your case, you didn't actually have full blown ransomware in each of those cases. Having pop messages telling you not to turn off your PC or otherwise trying to scare you isn't actually ransomware. It's just plain old malware/spyware stuff that's been around for many many years. Rarely are those anything more than a bad popup from going to the wrong site. They do not typically leave anything bad on your machine. They are spear phishing trying to scare you into calling a number and giving them your info or access to your machine.

True actual ransomware infections encrypt most of your data files and tell you that you cannot get the key to open them without paying them money. The only way to rid yourself of full blown ransomware attacks is either to pay it, or restore all of your files from a backup source and start over. Turning off your machine would not clear it and I haven't seen any in recent years that could be restored by an AV app or other program. There are ways to help prevent them, but once you have them you are kind of screwed particularly if you do not have backups of your data. It's either pay or lose everything.

Most AV apps do not prevent spyware/malware and those annoying popups as they are not actually putting bad code on your machine. They are just scareware. Many anti malware also do not prevent those for the same reason. Popup blockers are a must these days anyway and there are add ons for many browsers that warn you of known sites that contain these annoying antics. Web of trust is one reputation based add on worth looking into.

Your posts are always pretty much spot on. I would be interested in your thoughts on Net Neutrality going away. Apologies if I messed it in the thread.

http://sportshoop.la/threads/fcc-plans-total-repeal-of-net-neutrality-rules.245842/
 

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Your posts are always pretty much spot on. I would be interested in your thoughts on Net Neutrality going away. Apologies if I messed it in the thread.

http://sportshoop.la/threads/fcc-plans-total-repeal-of-net-neutrality-rules.245842/
It's probably too early to really know the fallout, but both sides argue with extreme and worst case scenario views that really only serve to confuse the issue.

It will move the regulatory body from the FCC to the FTC which changes quite a few things, most notably the level of oversight.

This change will once again allow your ISP to throttle specific data such as streams from competing products to help make their own services more attractive. We are told the FTC will look into cases and help prevent this, but we won't have any idea how deep or effective they will be until actual cases start coming in. I don't see the doomsday scenario of 'the end of the internet as we know it' or that nonsense. There will be shenanigans for sure and it could end up raising the prices of services for many users. However it is still on the free market system and if any carrier goes crazy it will only be sustainable if everyone else does it too. Think of cell phone companies. Some still do try to gouge with crazy prices, but all these low cost alternatives have also forced some of the middle tier players to lower their prices and stay competitive.

The combination of whatever FTC oversight there is to limit abuse by the providers along with the free market system should in theory limit whatever the NN proponents are ultra paranoid about.

However, and this isn't trival, NN wasn't something thrown in at the last second a couple of years ago by the Obama administration. It went into law in the 90's. Obama reclassified it to try to further protect it.

Those of us old enough to remember what ISP's were like back then know full well what it went into place to stop. There's good reason to have concern and worry about the price going up and for worry about some things not being available (ISP filtering) on some services.

Remember when you had AOL and their stuff came in super fast, but you couldn't always get 100% of everything else offered on the web without add ons and/or when the open net was slower than their internal offerings? It is NN that put an end to that practice. AOL wasn't the worst at it, but so many had it back then that someone reading this should be shaking their heads. It's been more than 20 years since these laws ended that mess. ISP's were doing some crazy shit back then that isn't unlike what cable companies do to you now. There were fees or 'packages' to gain access (or give you the speed you should have had with your base product) otherwise you either didn't get access to it or it was slower.

Life got a LOT better after NN was first adopted. You didn't have to worry about which ISP you had if you wanted to access a specific service. FWIW I was never an AOL customer because of how bad they were with that controlling shit. Earthlink and the independent ISP's were far more neutral.

So the question is now that Americans have been used to being able to access anything from anywhere with whatever service they subscribe to as long as they stay within their allotted bandwidth, how would they react to early 90's style changes? I don't think they would stand by for it going fully back there.

Undoubtedly you will find some of those fears coming true and the big guys will be leveraging their muscle, but the genie is already out of the bottle. Instead of a wholesale return to that weirdness, I'd expect some of that filtering or throttling to be sold to us as a positive in some way and slowly reintroduced. You can bet there are throngs of people waiting to jump on it and call it what it is.
 

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My son lost his laptop because of ransomware. IMHO it was a good thing because he was getting divorced and said he was pissed about not being able to post revenge pron.
I could send him my email address to help him out.
:eyebrows:

Not with his laptop, that's toast. More the other thing. :whistle:
 

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It's probably too early to really know the fallout, but both sides argue with extreme and worst case scenario views that really only serve to confuse the issue.

It will move the regulatory body from the FCC to the FTC which changes quite a few things, most notably the level of oversight.

This change will once again allow your ISP to throttle specific data such as streams from competing products to help make their own services more attractive. We are told the FTC will look into cases and help prevent this, but we won't have any idea how deep or effective they will be until actual cases start coming in. I don't see the doomsday scenario of 'the end of the internet as we know it' or that nonsense. There will be shenanigans for sure and it could end up raising the prices of services for many users. However it is still on the free market system and if any carrier goes crazy it will only be sustainable if everyone else does it too. Think of cell phone companies. Some still do try to gouge with crazy prices, but all these low cost alternatives have also forced some of the middle tier players to lower their prices and stay competitive.

The combination of whatever FTC oversight there is to limit abuse by the providers along with the free market system should in theory limit whatever the NN proponents are ultra paranoid about.

However, and this isn't trival, NN wasn't something thrown in at the last second a couple of years ago by the Obama administration. It went into law in the 90's. Obama reclassified it to try to further protect it.

Those of us old enough to remember what ISP's were like back then know full well what it went into place to stop. There's good reason to have concern and worry about the price going up and for worry about some things not being available (ISP filtering) on some services.

Remember when you had AOL and their stuff came in super fast, but you couldn't always get 100% of everything else offered on the web without add ons and/or when the open net was slower than their internal offerings? It is NN that put an end to that practice. AOL wasn't the worst at it, but so many had it back then that someone reading this should be shaking their heads. It's been more than 20 years since these laws ended that mess. ISP's were doing some crazy shit back then that isn't unlike what cable companies do to you now. There were fees or 'packages' to gain access (or give you the speed you should have had with your base product) otherwise you either didn't get access to it or it was slower.

Life got a LOT better after NN was first adopted. You didn't have to worry about which ISP you had if you wanted to access a specific service. FWIW I was never an AOL customer because of how bad they were with that controlling shit. Earthlink and the independent ISP's were far more neutral.

So the question is now that Americans have been used to being able to access anything from anywhere with whatever service they subscribe to as long as they stay within their allotted bandwidth, how would they react to early 90's style changes? I don't think they would stand by for it going fully back there.

Undoubtedly you will find some of those fears coming true and the big guys will be leveraging their muscle, but the genie is already out of the bottle. Instead of a wholesale return to that weirdness, I'd expect some of that filtering or throttling to be sold to us as a positive in some way and slowly reintroduced. You can bet there are throngs of people waiting to jump on it and call it what it is.

Thanks for this. That was pretty much what I was thinking as well. Some on the thread I posted the link to think otherwise. Still not sure why. Maybe they are just being politically motivated dicks because someone told them this was Obama's idea even though it was proposed in the 90s LOL.
 

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I could send him my email address to help him out.
:eyebrows:

Not with his laptop, that's toast. More the other thing. :whistle:

It was a good thing ... he was still in the military and revenge pron is a crime where he lives. He wanted to post it and tag everyone in her church. SMH.
 

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It's probably too early to really know the fallout, but both sides argue with extreme and worst case scenario views that really only serve to confuse the issue.

It will move the regulatory body from the FCC to the FTC which changes quite a few things, most notably the level of oversight.

This change will once again allow your ISP to throttle specific data such as streams from competing products to help make their own services more attractive. We are told the FTC will look into cases and help prevent this, but we won't have any idea how deep or effective they will be until actual cases start coming in. I don't see the doomsday scenario of 'the end of the internet as we know it' or that nonsense. There will be shenanigans for sure and it could end up raising the prices of services for many users. However it is still on the free market system and if any carrier goes crazy it will only be sustainable if everyone else does it too. Think of cell phone companies. Some still do try to gouge with crazy prices, but all these low cost alternatives have also forced some of the middle tier players to lower their prices and stay competitive.

The combination of whatever FTC oversight there is to limit abuse by the providers along with the free market system should in theory limit whatever the NN proponents are ultra paranoid about.

However, and this isn't trival, NN wasn't something thrown in at the last second a couple of years ago by the Obama administration. It went into law in the 90's. Obama reclassified it to try to further protect it.

Those of us old enough to remember what ISP's were like back then know full well what it went into place to stop. There's good reason to have concern and worry about the price going up and for worry about some things not being available (ISP filtering) on some services.

Remember when you had AOL and their stuff came in super fast, but you couldn't always get 100% of everything else offered on the web without add ons and/or when the open net was slower than their internal offerings? It is NN that put an end to that practice. AOL wasn't the worst at it, but so many had it back then that someone reading this should be shaking their heads. It's been more than 20 years since these laws ended that mess. ISP's were doing some crazy shit back then that isn't unlike what cable companies do to you now. There were fees or 'packages' to gain access (or give you the speed you should have had with your base product) otherwise you either didn't get access to it or it was slower.

Life got a LOT better after NN was first adopted. You didn't have to worry about which ISP you had if you wanted to access a specific service. FWIW I was never an AOL customer because of how bad they were with that controlling shit. Earthlink and the independent ISP's were far more neutral.

So the question is now that Americans have been used to being able to access anything from anywhere with whatever service they subscribe to as long as they stay within their allotted bandwidth, how would they react to early 90's style changes? I don't think they would stand by for it going fully back there.

Undoubtedly you will find some of those fears coming true and the big guys will be leveraging their muscle, but the genie is already out of the bottle. Instead of a wholesale return to that weirdness, I'd expect some of that filtering or throttling to be sold to us as a positive in some way and slowly reintroduced. You can bet there are throngs of people waiting to jump on it and call it what it is.


All I got out of this, is that it's all Obama's fault.:dhd:
 

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Well, you haven't come across me when you've been on your tranny websites have you?

That's what I normally ask people who say that I look familiar.
 

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Oh, so you think that's how you get ransomware. I don't do ****, let alone tranny ****, so I guess we just need to rely on your personal experience.
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JFC, you liberals are getting stupider every minute, and the sad thing is you don't know it or why or what you can do to change your stupidity.
 

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JFC, you liberals are getting stupider every minute, and the sad thing is you don't know it or why or what you can do to change your stupidity.
Jesus, calm the fuck down dude. No one's judging you about the tranny ****, it'll be okay.
 

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JFC, you liberals are getting stupider every minute, and the sad thing is you don't know it or why or what you can do to change your stupidity.

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