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trojanfan12

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I said I did not make this fucking thread for it to be a Kobe/LeBron fucking circle jerk


That's what I fucking said

Your post said no.

But your eyes said Kobe/Lebron circle jerk. :heh:
 
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Le3-5 Choker at #4. Comical
 

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But, if you want to side with a random ESPN poll over people who live and breathe basketball, then go right ahead. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

lol

Look, I agree with you about Lebron being better than Kobe. But let's not pretend that this poll is any better or more accurate or "correct" than any other poll. :pound:

End of the day, all of these polls are opinion, making them neither right or wrong.
 
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Hit me with your most impressive 5 stats where Kobe is ahead of Lebron.

Here are 7.


The Black Mamba is a way cooler nickname than The King or The Chosen One.

Kobe chooses to be bald.

Kobe has the hotter wife.

Kobe lives in Newport Beach, Lebron lives in Akron.

The GOAT himself says so.

Airplane glide celebration is way cooler than the Herman Munster walk celebration.

Kobe's "Death Stare" is way more intimidating than Lebron's whiney face or I just bit into an aspirin face.

What'd I win?
 

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1. Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Kareem
6. Oscar
7. Bill Russell
8. Shaq
9. Duncan
10. Hakeem
 

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No Bird, Femur?
It was tough to leave out the white boy. I don't know... ask me tomorrow and he may be 9th above Tim and Hakeem.
 

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Surprised Brian Scalabrine didn't make more lists......best towel waver ever.
 

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1. Jordan

2. Magic
3. Lebron
4. Kareem
5. Hakeem
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Wilt
9. Kobe
10. Oscar

Duncan to me is the most overrated on all these lists. In my opinion, David Robinson is better than Duncan in almost every aspect, but Duncan always gets ranked ahead of him because of the 5 rings. But when you compare the two in their absolute prime, it's not close.

I also think at the rate Durant is going, he's going to end up in the top 6 somewhere. He may very well finish with like 4-5 rings, which would mean Steph would have 5-6 and he'd be top 10 somewhere too.
 

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1. Jordan

2. Magic
3. Lebron
4. Kareem
5. Hakeem
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Wilt
9. Kobe
10. Oscar

Duncan to me is the most overrated on all these lists. In my opinion, David Robinson is better than Duncan in almost every aspect, but Duncan always gets ranked ahead of him because of the 5 rings. But when you compare the two in their absolute prime, it's not close.

I also think at the rate Durant is going, he's going to end up in the top 6 somewhere. He may very well finish with like 4-5 rings, which would mean Steph would have 5-6 and he'd be top 10 somewhere too.

The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.

My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.
 

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The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.

My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.

Curry is the guard version of Reggie Miller IMO. I would have them ranked similarly.
 

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1. Jordan
2. Jabbar
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Chamberlain
6. Russell
7. LeBron
8. West
9. Kobe
10. Robertson

If that seems Lakers-heavy, I would also have Baylor and Shaq in the next 5.
 

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The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.

My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.

What did CUrry/Durant do that Lebron didn't do with Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, Allen before?

The context needs to be placed on what they do to get the rings I would agree. If Curry isn't gonna win any FMVP, I can't put him high. If Durant is gonna do more of what he did this year. It isn;'t gonna take him long to overtake Lebron. 3-4 seasons
 

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The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.

My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.

If you were to ask people to list the players in order of how you would draft them if they were all 20 years olds, I doubt you wound find many non-Dorian posters that would argue that Curry should be taken before James.
 

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Curry is the guard version of Reggie Miller IMO. I would have them ranked similarly.

He is a lot better than Reggie Miller. That is a bit of a stretch.

Miller never even made 2nd team all NBA. To be perfectly honest, Klay Thompson is the same type of player but a better version because of the defense.

Miller was clutch as hell, but not an all time great player.
 

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If you were to ask people to list the players in order of how you would draft them if they were all 20 years olds, I doubt you wound find many non-Dorian posters that would argue that Curry should be taken before James.

I agree.

I also bet that 20 years from now if people still use the same rubric for greatness, Curry's resume will look as good or better if we are still overrating team accomplishments. Everyone watching the games now knows that LeBron is the better player. In the future looking back it might not be so obvious.
 

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He is a lot better than Reggie Miller. That is a bit of a stretch.

Miller never even made 2nd team all NBA. To be perfectly honest, Klay Thompson is the same type of player but a better version because of the defense.

Miller was clutch as hell, but not an all time great player.

The point I was making is that Curry is an elite level perimeter shooter. That doesn't get you into the top 10. Top 20 is arguable.
 
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