Your top 20 players in the NFL (2013 offseason)

[Clayton]

Staying power means something.

It does but it matters less in the NFL than any other sport, really

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Adrian Peterson
3. JJ Watt
4. Tom Brady
5. Geno Atkins
6. Von Miller
7. Calvin Johnson
8. Peyton Manning
9. Andre Johnson
10. Drew Brees
11. Cameron Wake
12. Patrick Willis
13. Drew Brees
14. Darrelle Revis
15. Ray Rice
16. Julio Jones
17. Big Ben
18. Eli Manning
19. Holti Ngata
20. Joe Flacco

 

[RoboticDreams]

It does but it matters less in the NFL than any other sport, really

Sure but there are always injury problems can completely derail a persons career. More so in the NFL than any other league.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

It does but it matters less in the NFL than any other sport, really

Staying power to me means staying healthy and in the NFL that is hard to do, so i'd think those that could stay healthy have the edge over those that can't.

 

[Smart]

That's not what I'm saying. Staying power means something. We have all seen one year wonders. I'm not predicting that for Wilson. I actually like him as a player but his fans (most) are annoying. He has "reached legendary status" in a lot of their minds.

Really? Show me a one-year wonder that had a season like Russell had last year. I can think of one, and if you can name him, more power to you.

In general, 100 QB Ratings aren't achieved by flukes. Especially when that person was coming off the highest QB Rating in NCAA History. And he has no visible weaknesses (go ahead and name me one). And when he is outstanding at all splits. It's not like he is surviving off of one fluke type of play.

And as for legendary status, I have seen many college games in person (as a guess, about 50). I have also seen about twenty NFL games in person. I've seen Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNabb, Dayne, Woodson, Urlacher, Champ Bailey, etc. The list goes on and on with NFL HOFers and CFB legends. None of them impressed me as much as Russell Wilson. Getting to watch him on a week to week basis was incredible. He never let you down and he just had an aura about him, like you were watching The Beatles in Hamburg or a ten year old Jesus preach. Russell Wilson could have been a huge flop in the NFL, but i'd have known what I saw. And what I saw was pure, unadulterated greatness. I've elevated him to legend status and he's earned every bit of it.

And you can all me an irrational fanboy all you want, but the reality is that everyone I know who watches Russell gets that same bone-chilling feeling. When people walk into games saying "that guy is overrated" and walk out saying "that quarterback is a beast" (and I got this reaction from fans at the Rams game last year, even when his numbers were awful), you know you are watching one of the true greats.

 

[Smart]

This piece by David Foster Wallace about Roger Federer embodies all the ways that I feel about Russell Wilson (and is a much read in its own right). There' something unquantifiable about beauty and greatness in sports, and he just has it.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Really? Show me a one-year wonder that had a season like Russell had last year. I can think of one, and if you can name him, more power to you.

In general, 100 QB Ratings aren't achieved by flukes. Especially when that person was coming off the highest QB Rating in NCAA History. And he has no visible weaknesses (go ahead and name me one). And when he is outstanding at all splits. It's not like he is surviving off of one fluke type of play.

And as for legendary status, I have seen many college games in person (as a guess, about 50). I have also seen about twenty NFL games in person. I've seen Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNabb, Dayne, Woodson, Urlacher, Champ Bailey, etc. The list goes on and on with NFL HOFers and CFB legends. None of them impressed me as much as Russell Wilson. Getting to watch him on a week to week basis was incredible. He never let you down and he just had an aura about him, like you were watching The Beatles in Hamburg or a ten year old Jesus preach. Russell Wilson could have been a huge flop in the NFL, but i'd have known what I saw. And what I saw was pure, unadulterated greatness. I've elevated him to legend status and he's earned every bit of it.

And you can all me an irrational fanboy all you want, but the reality is that everyone I know who watches Russell gets that same bone-chilling feeling. When people walk into games saying "that guy is overrated" and walk out saying "that quarterback is a beast" (and I got this reaction from fans at the Rams game last year, even when his numbers were awful), you know you are watching one of the true greats.

Well good luck with that.

 

[Tubbs1518]

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Adrian Peterson
3. J.J. Watt
4. Tom Brady
5. Calvin Johnson
6. Peyton Manning
7. Patrick Willis
8. Arian Foster
9. Drew Brees
10. A.J. Green
11. Demarcus Ware
12. Rob Gronkowski
13. Julio Jones
14. Geno Atkins
15. Jamal Charles
16. Joe Staley
17. Vince Wilfork
18. Hiloti Ngata
19. Justin Smith
20. Matt Stafford

Anyone who puts him in their top 20 list has no credibility. He is barely a top 5 pass rusher IMO much less top 20 all around player.

 

[Tubbs1518]

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Adrian Peterson
3. JJ Watt
4. Tom Brady
5. Geno Atkins
6. Von Miller
7. Calvin Johnson
8. Peyton Manning
9. Andre Johnson
10. Drew Brees
11. Cameron Wake
12. Patrick Willis
13. Drew Brees
14. Darrelle Revis
15. Ray Rice
16. Julio Jones
17. Big Ben
18. Eli Manning
19. Holti Ngata
20. Joe Flacco

No chance Andre Johnson is top 10. He isn't even the best WR in the AFC.

 

[SonnyCID]

Well good luck with that.

You love talking about the Seahawks.

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

Who is this random guy repping my teams?

Welcome, and come to our team boards.

I like the way you fan. You a UW grad?

 

[SonnyCID]

That's moronic. I don't make decisions on top 10 QBs off of ONE season. If you want to do that, that's your prerogative but it's not sound logic.

Is it sound logic to give a guy an edge just because he has played more years, even if he still hasn't shown more than Wilson? I agree that Wilson is not elite, he's not on the level of Brees, Manning, Brady or Rodgers. But anyone after that it's debatable simply because he has at least one edge on any QB after those guys.

If you need more hindsight in order to make judgment that's cool. But not everyone does. Some people recognize good, complete players without needing to watch them for a bunch of years.

 

[JDM]

No chance Andre Johnson is top 10. He isn't even the best WR in the AFC.

Yes he is (best in AFC).

 

[Smart]

I like the way you fan. You a UW grad?

Yep. I graduated last year.

 

[Clayton]

No chance Andre Johnson is top 10. He isn't even the best WR in the AFC.

Andre Johnson > AJ Green

 

[Clayton]

SportsHoopla Top 25 so far. Need quite a few more votes for a decent top 100

1. Adrian Peterson
2. JJ Watt
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Tom Brady
5. Calvin Johnson
6. Peyton Manning
7. Von Miller
8. Patrick Willis
9. Geno Atkins
10. Drew Brees
11. Darrelle Revis
12. Demarcus Ware
13. Joe Thomas
14. Rob Gronkowski
15. Arian Foster
16. Justin Smith
17. Andre Johnson
18. AJ Green
19. Aldon Smith
20. Cameron Wake
21. Charles Tillman
22. Marshawn Lynch
23. Richard Sherman
24. Brandon Marshall
25. Vince Wilfork

 

[JDM]

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Tom Brady
3. JJ Watt
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Peyton Manning
6. Calvin Johnson
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Patrick Willis
9. Darelle Revis
10. Richard Sherman
11. Joe Thomas
12. Vince Wilfork
13. Arian Foster
14. Andre Johnson
15. Rob Gronkowski
16. Von Miller
17. Julio Jones
18. Marshawn Lynch
19. Aldon Smith
20. Drew Brees

 

[Stevein2012]

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. JJ Watt
4. Adrian Peterson
5. Peyton Manning
6. Geno Atkins
7. Von Miller
8. Darrelle Revis
9. Drew Brees
10. Rob Gronkowski
11. Richard Sherman
12. Calvin Johnson
13. Patrick Willis
14. Joe Thomas
15. Demarcus Ware
16. Charles Tillman
17. Larry Fitzgerald
18. Clay Matthews
19. Justin Smith
20. Cameron Wake

 

[threelittleturds]

I'll approach it differently, just like threelittlebirds did.

QB Aaron Rodgers
QB Peyton Manning
RB Adrian Peterson
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Rob Gronkowski
LT Joe Thomas
RT Anthony Davis
G Marshall Yanda
G Carl Nicks
C Chris Myers
3-4 DE J.J. Watt
3-4 OLB DeMarcus Ware
DT Geno Atkins
NT Vince Wilfork
4-3 DE Jared Allen
4-3 OLB Von Miller
ILB Patrick Willis
CB Charles Tillman
S Eric Weddle

Best approach yet... Top 20?? Dream team Starting 22, best at every position. Don't like the 2 QBs obviously.

 

[SonnyCID]

In no particular order:

JJ Watt
Calvin Johnson
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Geno Atkins
Mike Iupati
Joe Thomas
Earl Thomas
Adrian Peterson
AJ Green
Tony Gonzalez
Justin Smith
Richie Sherman
Peyton Manning
Brandon Marshall
Clay Matthews
Marshawn Lynch
Von Miller
Julio Jones
Rob Gronkowski