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But Kerry Wood does have the best 20 strikeout game ever.

Clemens allowed a run in one, and 5 hits in the other and Scherzer allowed 2 runs.
Randy Johnson's seems to get lost in the shuffle a bit. The game went to extra innings but he struck out 20 through 9.
 

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I like David Cone's perfect game.

10 strikeouts on 88 pitches.
 

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And those that threw a perfect game allowed no base runners.

Perfect game> 20 strikeout game.
A lot of perfect games are better than 20 strikeout games. No perfect game was better than this 20 strikeout game.
 

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Randy Johnson's seems to get lost in the shuffle a bit. The game went to extra innings but he struck out 20 through 9.

Forgot about that.

His perfect game against the Braves is the only time I can ever recall pulling against the Braves hoping to witness history after the 8th inning(up until that point I had never watched a perfect game in real time before)
 

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Kerry Wood had the most electric fastball I've ever seen for a couple of years. Then The Cubs rode him like a rented mule till his arm was shot to hell...the end.

Wood's mechanics were conducive to arm injury. He's one of the first to experience this and many many MANY pitchers are suffering from it now. They all want to throw a slider at 99 mph. The elbow can't take that. Wood was the victim of being so damned good that nobody ever thought to question what that was doing to his elbow. The DL these days is direct evidence of that, so I don't blame the Cubs as much as I do the radar gun and the box scores. They all figured, well hell ... Bob Feller did it, why can't Kerry? Feller was a mystical human being, is the difference.
 

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A lot of perfect games are better than 20 strikeout games. No perfect game was better than this 20 strikeout game.

So a perfect game in the World Series isn't better than a 20 strikeout game in May?
 

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So a perfect game in the World Series isn't better than a 20 strikeout game in May?
As far as importance of course the World Series is better. Doesn't mean Don Larsen performed better than Kerry Wood on those days. If that was the case, every World Series performance that led to a win is better than any regular season performance.

And whether it was in May, September, or June doesn't matter. The Cubs won the Wild Card by 1 game that year. Every performance was important.
 

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Always liked Kyle Farnsworth too.

 

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So a perfect game in the World Series isn't better than a 20 strikeout game in May?
A WS perfecto is a bigger deal because of the obvious stress on the pitcher about when it's being pitched.
But from a statistical point of view, it counts as a win.
What matters here for us personally is whether a game is so damned memorable as to be the most amazing we ever saw. Most games I go to, the starting pitchers rarely last 4 innings. So there's that.
 

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A WS perfecto is a bigger deal because of the obvious stress on the pitcher about when it's being pitched.
But from a statistical point of view, it counts as a win.
What matters here for us personally is whether a game is so damned memorable as to be the most amazing we ever saw. Most games I go to, the starting pitchers rarely last 4 innings. So there's that.

I went to a game where Julio Teheran lost a no hitter in the 9th.

But most of the games I have attended have been more memorable for the offense other than that one and the game that closed down Turner Field last year when Teheran out dueled Verlander in a 1-0 win.
 

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As far as importance of course the World Series is better. Doesn't mean Don Larsen performed better than Kerry Wood on those days. If that was the case, every World Series performance that led to a win is better than any regular season performance.

And whether it was in May, September, or June doesn't matter. The Cubs won the Wild Card by 1 game that year. Every performance was important.

As long as the out is recorded, I don't care how it happens. Strikeout, ground ball, robbed home run, etc. I'll always be more impressed with any perfect game. You can't do better than 27 up, and 27 down.
 

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He's one of the best right-handed batters of his generation and I always enjoyed his kid-like approach to the game. Made him a fun player to watch.

Watch the leg kick and swing on this home run... kind of does remind you of Manny hitting one out to the opposite field.

Castellanos' two-run homer
 

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As long as the out is recorded, I don't care how it happens. Strikeout, ground ball, robbed home run, etc. I'll always be more impressed with any perfect game. You can't do better than 27 up, and 27 down.
I don't really "care" about how the out is recorded as far as it concerns my team or anything. But I will judge a pitching performance on more. A strikeout is more impressive than a lineout, as far as the performance of the pitcher. Of course an out is an out, but I'm not just judging on whether or not the team was able to record an out. If the ball is hit in play, the pitcher must rely on others to make a play for him. If the pitcher strikes a guy out, he doesn't.
 
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