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You guys live on this shit. Bach and Jahii fail and you get a woody.
 

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The reality of the situation is that you've been trolling us the past few weeks and it's gotten annoying... if you can dish it out then be prepared to receive it. You've been running your mouth so quit acting surprised and playing victim.
 

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The reality of the situation is that you've been trolling us the past few weeks and it's gotten annoying... if you can dish it out then be prepared to receive it. You've been running your mouth so quit acting surprised and playing victim.

This is basically it, Fork. Honestly, I really hope that Bach gets picked up. He seems like a good kid. I wouldn't be surprised if he spends a couple years in Europe and comes back to a roster. He needs a little more speed and a jumper, neither of which are insurmountable.

But Jahii? Nah. I'm definitely not one to take shots on college kids, but I have no remorse for doing so with Carson. He needed to learn a lesson that your the bigger the ego, the more it will cost you. He chooses the toughest draft in a decade to leave, and the only reason he stayed was to 'leave his legacy' at ASU and help them accomplish what they never had. How'd that go? He talked shit for two years, obviously about AZ, but he just propped himself up so much that he couldn't even tell the real from the bullshit. I'm sure that it got in the way with his improvement.

Truth is: Carson is a phenomenal athlete. And he can still go to Europe and work on this game, and his head. If he drastically humbles himself (which hopefully the draft snub has done), puts his head down, and just relentlessly works on his passing, defense, and decision-making with the basketball (turnovers), then he could definitely be a Nate Robinson kind of player. But that is a very small niche, and so he is going to have to be a specialist. And right now, he is nothing special at all.

If he wouldn't have talked so much shit, I'd feel bad for him, because it does suck. But when the most capable part of him is his mouth, then I have no sympathy. I hope it teaches him that the world doesn't care what you say, it cares about what you do. And if he thinks he can waltz through some shit on his own ego, he'll get chewed up and spit out, just like he did. See how many friends he has today, compared to last week. See how many people, agents, long lost family, people he went to school with, girls, all were on his dick last week, and now his circle is him and his momma. Fake attract fake.

Again, had he not run his mouth about being the best PG, the best player, and all the shit he talked about AZ, hanging on the rim, running around with that stupid fucking grin, he wouldn't be in this situation. He would have stayed until he was ready, probably left next year, and got drafted in a much weaker draft after improving more. Because what did ASU really achieve? Getting to the tourney? That is an achievement? That can't be what he meant. Beating AZ? THat's one team, one game, on some shit that no one who is really looking as a victory as the marker of being better than someone in having beat them, would point to as an accomplishment. Is that what he was looking for? Some cheap victory? Because I'm pretty sure that ASU has beaten AZ dozens of times. Beating AZ and going to the tourney are despicable markers to qualify success. Because when it comes down to it, he didn't accomplish shit. And he didn't want to. He didn't give two fucks about ASU. That was just an excuse. He has a worse year than the season prior, ASU didn't accomplish shit, and he still left into the toughest draft in a decade, because he didn't give a fuck about anything but himself, and he talked himself into it. And we all get the last laugh.
 

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Bach will contend. Shhut the fuck up. PAC12 shot block leader, pathetic.
 

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Bach will contend. Shhut the fuck up. PAC12 shot block leader, pathetic.

Not sure what you are getting at here, if you read my first paragraph, I am actually behind Bach. Soooooo:noidea:
 

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This is basically it, Fork. Honestly, I really hope that Bach gets picked up. He seems like a good kid. I wouldn't be surprised if he spends a couple years in Europe and comes back to a roster. He needs a little more speed and a jumper, neither of which are insurmountable.

But Jahii? Nah. I'm definitely not one to take shots on college kids, but I have no remorse for doing so with Carson. He needed to learn a lesson that your the bigger the ego, the more it will cost you. He chooses the toughest draft in a decade to leave, and the only reason he stayed was to 'leave his legacy' at ASU and help them accomplish what they never had. How'd that go? He talked shit for two years, obviously about AZ, but he just propped himself up so much that he couldn't even tell the real from the bullshit. I'm sure that it got in the way with his improvement.

Truth is: Carson is a phenomenal athlete. And he can still go to Europe and work on this game, and his head. If he drastically humbles himself (which hopefully the draft snub has done), puts his head down, and just relentlessly works on his passing, defense, and decision-making with the basketball (turnovers), then he could definitely be a Nate Robinson kind of player. But that is a very small niche, and so he is going to have to be a specialist. And right now, he is nothing special at all.

If he wouldn't have talked so much shit, I'd feel bad for him, because it does suck. But when the most capable part of him is his mouth, then I have no sympathy. I hope it teaches him that the world doesn't care what you say, it cares about what you do. And if he thinks he can waltz through some shit on his own ego, he'll get chewed up and spit out, just like he did. See how many friends he has today, compared to last week. See how many people, agents, long lost family, people he went to school with, girls, all were on his dick last week, and now his circle is him and his momma. Fake attract fake.

Again, had he not run his mouth about being the best PG, the best player, and all the shit he talked about AZ, hanging on the rim, running around with that stupid fucking grin, he wouldn't be in this situation. He would have stayed until he was ready, probably left next year, and got drafted in a much weaker draft after improving more. Because what did ASU really achieve? Getting to the tourney? That is an achievement? That can't be what he meant. Beating AZ? THat's one team, one game, on some shit that no one who is really looking as a victory as the marker of being better than someone in having beat them, would point to as an accomplishment. Is that what he was looking for? Some cheap victory? Because I'm pretty sure that ASU has beaten AZ dozens of times. Beating AZ and going to the tourney are despicable markers to qualify success. Because when it comes down to it, he didn't accomplish shit. And he didn't want to. He didn't give two fucks about ASU. That was just an excuse. He has a worse year than the season prior, ASU didn't accomplish shit, and he still left into the toughest draft in a decade, because he didn't give a fuck about anything but himself, and he talked himself into it. And we all get the last laugh.

Why don't you go onto BJ Armstrongs blog and post this?
 
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