Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Sgt Brutus, Sep 1, 2017.
Germany is my team but I would be very happy seeing Poland (Lewandowski) and Sweden go far too.
I like poland
This. So much this.
Italy will come back faster and stronger than the US.
The US is apparently fine with mediocrity and it pisses me off.
Morocco and Tunisia? Seriously?
Yeah, there's a video out there showing DeRossi getting pissed when they told him to warm up to go on. From what I saw, the translation was something like "Why me? We need a win, not a draw" as he pointed to Insigne saying he should be the one going on. For the life of me I can't figure out why, when needing a win, were Insigne, Belotti and El Shaarawy not starting, and Insigne never came on.
Italy has a lot of problems, starting with bad coaching and an aging team. No doubt they will have a huge overhaul of the team and system, similar to how Germany did years ago, though unlike Germany who noticed the issues before they got too bad and revamped from the grassroots up, it took a huge embarrassment to wake the Italian FA up.
Hard to say... I mean I know Italy is a MUCH MUCH better soccer nation than we are, but the competition in Europe is also much stiffer...
I mean, Sweden v. Trinidad and Tobago? I think our loss is clearly more embarrassing.
Honduras and Panama advancing over the United States (A country with 350+ Million citizens?)...
Interesting stuff... Didn't know all that. I did wonder how Italy ended up with Spain in their group though. This explains it.
And go Ireland! Its the only nationality rooting interest I have left!
After that, probably Belgium... Just familiar with a lot of their players.
and England I suppose. Though their fans are SOOOOO funny when they lose that I kinda secretly root for failure there... LOL!!
Used to live there and still have a lot of friends there. Lately, England fans have actually been realistic. Whereas in the past they thought they would win EVERY tournament they were in, then meltdown when they didn't, now most acknowledge that A) they were in the easiest qualifying group and B) They will most likely either not make it out of the group stage, or will squeak by and get put out in the first knockout game, basically the "same old same old".
The reaction to the Iceland loss was epic though...
Denmark up 2-1
If you think U.S. fans are upset about missing the WC, take that and multiply it at least 10X and you'll have some idea of how angry Italy and the Netherlands are about missing out.
True. But The Netherlands missed the last Euros also, so it wasn't a huge surprise. But the Italians are going mental.
I heard Ventura needed a police escort and had to go out the back door to get to his home yesterday. The risk of taking on the big gig with an international giant like Italy and failing. Arena seems to already been forgiven getting the FOX analysis gig so quickly. That ain't happening for Ventura. Sucks to be him.
Yeah, he's going to probably need to get out of Italy for a while.
I looked back at July 2015 Fifa rankings. Dregs Romania, Slovakia, Wales, Austria, Croatia were Euro teams ranked higher than Italy then. Wow.
A couple of these teams were put in Pots as number 1 seeds of the 9 Groups but faded in strength as Group play progressed. What happened to Romania ranked #5 in Europe? Poland won that group and is much stronger than Romania now. Denmark in that group too.
Serbia won Group D. Luckiest team of all because 2015 semi-powers Wales and Austria in their group at that time both dropped off. If Italy is in that group, they are in World Cup I believe.
France was actually lower ranked than Italy then but got in a Group with the Netherlands who was the number 1 seed in Pot A. Netherlands faded too.
Poor Italy got in with Spain who has become much stronger now and is now a WC favorite.
Luck of the draw.
Italy ( Pot 2 team) was ranked 17 in the World at that time and Croatia (final Pot 1 team) was 14. Couple extra friendly wins and they move ahead of Croatia and are a Pot 1 team with Spain but no Spain in their Group. Even in Pot 1 anyone could have gotten France. Germany could have too. Poor Netherlands (Pot 1 team) got France (Pot 2) in their Group lol.
I just don't understand what went wrong with the Netherlands after they made it to the SF in the 2014 WC
Age I think was the biggest factor (also lost LVG to MANu)
Robben, Van Persie, Sniejder were the big 3 but 2014 was the last bit left in the tank for them. The younger guys haven't gelled as a team.
Guess we now have our 32 teams for the World Cup for next year. Should be a fun event. We'll know the 8 groups on December 1.
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