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Why are people still interested in hiring Belichick's assistants as coaches?

Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by Iggloo, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:39 AM.

  1. Iggloo

    Iggloo Sam who???

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    * Romeo Crennel
    * Eric Mangini
    * Josh McDaniels
    * Bill O'Brien

    The "Hoody tree" not looking so hot.

    Yes, you have Nick Saban in the college ranks. But when Charlie Weis went to Notre Dame, it didn't turn out so well, so that's a wash.
     



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  2. Carnzo

    Carnzo Not me, no way no how

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    I don't know but they are popular.
     
  3. DirtDirtDirt

    DirtDirtDirt Well-Known Member

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    I guess 33-47 isnt a bad coaching record for Eric Mangini

    Considering he was coaching the Browns and Jets
     
  4. There is A Moose at 3rd

    There is A Moose at 3rd Combo Breaker

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    Hoody until recently has not really made a serious effort to prepare coaches for when they leave NE according to the hit article. That much isn't terribly unlikely to me. These aren't bad minds, they haven't turned out as HC's.
     
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    DirtDirtDirt Well-Known Member

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    I think Patricia is most likely to become the next BB

    Not saying he will, but the guy is literally a rocket scientist
     
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  6. Iggloo

    Iggloo Sam who???

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    I think in some cases they are classic assistant who can't be lead dog types, like Crennel.

    O'Brien so far may be the most successful, which isn't saying much. He has gone a step further and hired former Pats players as assistants. Mike Vrabel seems like a solid up and coming assistant, but O'Brien already had to fire Larry Izzo as special teams coordinator. Izzo was quite possibly the dumbest dude I ever heard interviewed for a coach. It was like holding a microphone up to a slab of shale rock or something. Dude was seriously retarded.
     
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    Yeah, it's a tough gig.

    That said, Mangini was not a terrible HC...just got caught up in the web that is the CLE Browns. Same with O'Brien...not sure if it was his idea to make that Osweiler signing, but hard to evaluate him w/o a QB.

    McDaniels was given too much power too soon...should've have been working with an experienced GM...if so he might still be in DEN.
     
  8. DirtDirtDirt

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    And the highlight of Obriens' career is to go 9-7 in an awful division and get absolutely steamrolled in the postseason

    God I hate Bill Obrien
     
  9. Iggloo

    Iggloo Sam who???

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    I am definitely not sold on O'Brien, but he has taken his team to the playoffs twice, and this past year, Deshaun Watson, JJ Watt and Whitney Mercilus all got hurt, which was brutal.

    The big knock on him prior to Watson blowing up is that, for a supposed offensive guru, his offenses were crap.
     
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  10. DirtDirtDirt

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    Exactly, and for what its worth, he had to make a decision on Keenum or Savage

    One of them may be in the SB this season
     
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    molsaniceman I aint drunk Im just drinking

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    u cant make beef stew without the beef (qb):suds:
     
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    His guys that leave for coordinator jobs haven't really faired well either, notably McDaniels. Seems to be all about the Belichick filter/system.
     
  13. Wamu

    Wamu whats-a-matta-u?

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    Leave the Browns alone dammit! What have they done recently to deserve any ridicule? Please, don't mention the obvious.
     
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    BB's comparative advantage may not be so much his coaching skills as his ability to recognize and draft talent that fits his particular coaching schemes.

    BB with little say in a team's draft, FA, and trade selections is likely not nearly as successful.
     
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  15. LetsGoPats

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    Well, B.B. has the greatest QB of all time behind center, so that helps. Maybe if Eric and Josh could have taken Tom with them they'd still be head coaches.

    :skip:
     
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    Takes me back to the heady days of Jimmy J, Wannstedt and Norv.....
     
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    ArlingtonCowboys100 Goodell is a polesmoker

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    Yeah, but too be honest belicheat is in the top 5 coaches in NFL history. He may be on the top of that list. But, trading garapolo out from under belicheat was a rotten move. Garappolo i's the real deal
     
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    For all intents, most of these guys have taken jobs with teams that sucked and they were expected to flip them like a pancake and make them World Champs. Problem is that they haven't inherited the top of the line talent.
    Bill O'Brien literally saved Penn State and took on a an absolutely horrific Teaxans team. He's drafted well and rebuilt that team. Losing JJ and Whitney paralyzed the defense. Losing Watson did the same to the offensive.

    I'll predict right now that if all three of Watson, JJ and Whitney last through 2018 and OB drafts as well as he has the past three years, that the Texans will be in the AFCCG in January 2019.
     
  19. eaglesnut

    eaglesnut The Truth

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    The dominant tree in this league is Andy Reid's. He's pushing 1/3 of the league now.
     
  20. Hank Kingsley

    Hank Kingsley Crusty Curmudgeon

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    And hopefully he's passed along his choke like Mama Cass philosophy.