UConn coach Randy Edsall says college football players should be paid

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Won't work. Men would make all, or nearly all, of the money and there'd be cries of inequlity and we'd be right back to square one trying to figure out the perfect solution. When the perfect solution is...you pay men and women. Or nobody gets paid.

I think it would work fine -- because it wouldn't be affiliated with the University at all and that "problem" still exists in professional sports. If people are able to market their own likeness, then it's really up to the free market who gets paid and who doesn't.

 

[BigKen]

Title IX needs to be modernized. Football at major Div. I schools brings in 100,000 fans every Saturday at anywhere from $50-$10000 a seat. The NCAA gets a cut of every ticket.

The only women's sport that creates enough revenue to pay for itself is basketball, and only at the Div. I level.

If they truly want equality, then the women's sports and men's sports that don't generate anyincome need to find a way to at least bring in enough dollars to pay for uniforms. Send a 60 member track team from New York to LA for a meet is pretty damn costly and the meet may have 100 people watching and all of them are from the LA area. You know it's a 3 day trip, airfare, hotels and meals and that tab is easily $50,000. Send a football team from New York to LA and 100,000 people stuff the colosium to the tune of $5,000,000 and they spend at least $50 on beer and pretzels generating another $5,000,000. Do that every weekend and the football team easily pays for itself. So a football team generates $50,000,000 in revenue every year, why can't the members of the team, from the water boys to the starting QB all share equally in a piece of that pie? Say there's a 100 players and staff every week. Why shouldn't everyone get say $1000 for every game? $2000 for a post season game, $3000 for a conference championship game and $5000 for a bowl game appearance.

Limit salary for anyone working for the NCAA to $260,000. $5000 a week for ripping off minors should be adequate.

 

[The Q]

Title IX needs to be modernized. Football at major Div. I schools brings in 100,000 fans every Saturday at anywhere from $50-$10000 a seat. The NCAA gets a cut of every ticket.

The only women's sport that creates enough revenue to pay for itself is basketball, and only at the Div. I level.

If they truly want equality, then the women's sports and men's sports that don't generate anyincome need to find a way to at least bring in enough dollars to pay for uniforms. Send a 60 member track team from New York to LA for a meet is pretty damn costly and the meet may have 100 people watching and all of them are from the LA area. You know it's a 3 day trip, airfare, hotels and meals and that tab is easily $50,000. Send a football team from New York to LA and 100,000 people stuff the colosium to the tune of $5,000,000 and they spend at least $50 on beer and pretzels generating another $5,000,000. Do that every weekend and the football team easily pays for itself. So a football team generates $50,000,000 in revenue every year, why can't the members of the team, from the water boys to the starting QB all share equally in a piece of that pie? Say there's a 100 players and staff every week. Why shouldn't everyone get say $1000 for every game? $2000 for a post season game, $3000 for a conference championship game and $5000 for a bowl game appearance.

Limit salary for anyone working for the NCAA to $260,000. $5000 a week for ripping off minors should be adequate.

Most women's BB programs lose money too.

Football and MBB are really the only potential revenue generating sports in most instances.

 

[Across The Field]

The schools themselves cannot and should not ever be paying these students. If they do, it's only going to hurt students who aren't in athletics. There are buckets for donors at every university. Once the athletic budget gets strained because they're doling out paychecks, money allocated to other funds will be redistributed. Development officers for the athletic department will basically be reaching out to high end donors of other programs at the university telling them "well we're gonna need money from you for athletics or we're not going to be able to afford win". It's a bullshit idea stemming from greedy, entitled kids. Grow up and realize that the free education you're getting is worth it's weight in gold if you aren't a fucking idiot.

 

[Deep Creek]

"Shut up Randy." www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIYn6363H4

The only UCONN players that should be paid are the women's basketball players.

 

[NolePride]

Randy has a major problem.

He wants the UCONN football players to be paid. (That's not his problem, though)

His problem is...He can't find another University, that can afford to pay the UCONN players.

 

[BigKen]

The schools themselves cannot and should not ever be paying these students. If they do, it's only going to hurt students who aren't in athletics. There are buckets for donors at every university. Once the athletic budget gets strained because they're doling out paychecks, money allocated to other funds will be redistributed. Development officers for the athletic department will basically be reaching out to high end donors of other programs at the university telling them "well we're gonna need money from you for athletics or we're not going to be able to afford win". It's a bullshit idea stemming from greedy, entitled kids. Grow up and realize that the free education you're getting is worth it's weight in gold if you aren't a fucking idiot.

College football and basketball generate more than $25B in revenue annually. Take away those programs and see what happens. The players who are getting "scholarships" rarely have time for classes, even from February through May. They have practice and workout schedules that don't often coincide with academics.

Paying college athletes has nothing to do with students who are not playing sports. Even if every player received a straight $10,000 stipend, it wouldn't make a blip in the overall operation of any school or the cost of tuition. Colleges pay way too much for the professors who teach. Most have student assistants that do most of their scheduling and cirriculum work. Most profs work 2 -3 days a week for less than 6 hours a day. And are way over paid for what they do. Comparing college academics to college sports is like comparing apples to carrots. Don't work.

You want to go to college and be an engineer? Get really good grades in high school and get aa Academic Scholarship. Want to go to college and be a football player and part time student? Play high school football at a very high level or be a specialist, like a quarterback and do it well and get an Athletic Scholarship. Even better, be an Honor Roll student in high school and play football. Then you can get a combined Academic/Athletic Scholarship at a school that doesn't require 8 hours a day in the gym or on the field but does require at least 4 hours a day in a classroom.

 

[tducey]

Given how big college sports are in the US they should get some sort of payment, I agree. Whether that happens or not is another thing.

 

[Across The Field]

College football and basketball generate more than $25B in revenue annually. Take away those programs and see what happens. The players who are getting "scholarships" rarely have time for classes, even from February through May. They have practice and workout schedules that don't often coincide with academics.

Paying college athletes has nothing to do with students who are not playing sports. Even if every player received a straight $10,000 stipend, it wouldn't make a blip in the overall operation of any school or the cost of tuition. Colleges pay way too much for the professors who teach. Most have student assistants that do most of their scheduling and cirriculum work. Most profs work 2 -3 days a week for less than 6 hours a day. And are way over paid for what they do. Comparing college academics to college sports is like comparing apples to carrots. Don't work.

You want to go to college and be an engineer? Get really good grades in high school and get aa Academic Scholarship. Want to go to college and be a football player and part time student? Play high school football at a very high level or be a specialist, like a quarterback and do it well and get an Athletic Scholarship. Even better, be an Honor Roll student in high school and play football. Then you can get a combined Academic/Athletic Scholarship at a school that doesn't require 8 hours a day in the gym or on the field but does require at least 4 hours a day in a classroom.

Well this is simply wrong. The lazy ones don't, maybe. I have no idea where your perspective is coming from but it's pretty far from the truth.

Paying athletes has nothing to do with students not playing sports? Again, wrong. It 100% does. If every player (meaning, every single athlete at a university) gets a $10,000 stipend ON TOP OF what they already get, yeah, it would make a blip for sure. I am sure you don't know this, but the new tax plan in the country is making it harder for donors to write off returns unless they're over $10k, so having an academic budget that's only going to need more money now is going to be extremely rough on schools that don't have elite football/basketball programs. Sure, the Ohio States and Texases of the world are good, but the majority of the other schools are gonna feel this.

It's nice that it's so easy from whatever college you went to to just get a scholarship. In the real world, colleges are hyper-competitive. Kids that get 4.0 GPAs get turned down these days regularly. It's not what it was years ago.

The only thing you posted that is true is that professors are overpaid. You are 100% right there.

 

[The Q]

Given how big college sports are in the US they should get some sort of payment, I agree. Whether that happens or not is another thing.

Again, just letting them make money off their likeness and fame is a good enough start.

I hate Ohio St, but even I thought that the Tatoo-gate penalties were pretty dumb.

 

[HuskerNGA]

If athletes get paid it will turn into MLB. Only the 'yankees' of college football will be good because it will all be about how much money your willing to give to the players. Standardize it? School A doesn't make what School B does. Or doesn't allocate that much money to football. It just becomes ridiculous when you start going down that path.

Honestly, who would even watch it if it turned into this? I don't think I would. The competitive balance would be ruined along with recruiting.

Making money off likeness makes more sense though I still don't care for it. Isn't the argument that players are to busy for jobs? But we want to give them the ability to shoot a commercial or sign autographs for money? That takes time too

 

[NolePride]

Again, just letting them make money off their likeness and fame is a good enough start.

I hate Ohio St, but even I thought that the Tatoo-gate penalties were pretty dumb.

I'll offer a counter response.

Paying an individual for his likeness, promotes team unity, how?

There are 84 other guys on scholarship who have to sweat and bleed through conditioning drills
in February. Spring practice, Summer conditioning, Fall Practice, whatever.

Only one or two getting income will piss off a number of others.

I can't see any coach wanting something like that happening.

 

[The Q]

I'll offer a counter response.

Paying an individual for his likeness, promotes team unity, how?

There are 84 other guys on scholarship who have to sweat and bleed through conditioning drills
in February. Spring practice, Summer conditioning, Fall Practice, whatever.

Only one or two getting income will piss off a number of others.

I can't see any coach wanting something like that happening.

Wasn’t it the central Florida kicker who was making money off of YouTube?

That didn’t seem to hurt them.

 

[romeo212000]

Wasn’t it the central Florida kicker who was making money off of YouTube?

That didn’t seem to hurt them.

Not even a remotely good example.

 

[The Q]

Not even a remotely good example.

that's soemthing the ncaa currently bans.

if guys could do that stuff, it would help.

a lot.

so yes it is.

 

[Across The Field]

Again, just letting them make money off their likeness and fame is a good enough start.

I hate Ohio St, but even I thought that the Tatoo-gate penalties were pretty dumb.

Honestly, as a die-hard Buckeye fan, I thought they were pretty fair. The penalties weren't because of what the kids did, but what Tressel did in trying to keep the NCAA from knowing. Now, I think it's shit that a kid can't sell something that belongs to him (in this case, the Gold Pants from the michigan win), but after Tress went to the lengths he did to hide it, I understood why it happened.

 

[Across The Field]

I'll offer a counter response.

Paying an individual for his likeness, promotes team unity, how?

There are 84 other guys on scholarship who have to sweat and bleed through conditioning drills
in February. Spring practice, Summer conditioning, Fall Practice, whatever.

Only one or two getting income will piss off a number of others.

I can't see any coach wanting something like that happening.

Actually, in the event of the OSU Tattoo-gate scandal, it wasn't necessarily even their likeness. It was the gold pants trinket that all of the players get for beating michigan. You don't even have to be a star to sell those.

 

[NolePride]

Actually, in the event of the OSU Tattoo-gate scandal, it wasn't necessarily even their likeness. It was the gold pants trinket that all of the players get for beating michigan. You don't even have to be a star to sell those.

So you're suggesting that the Michigan Players will have to apply for welfare?

 

[Across The Field]

So you're suggesting that the Michigan Players will have to apply for welfare?

 

[CorpRebel]

Well... JUST let these so-called "student athletes" go find another way to get the eye of Pro teams then. Let em get drafted right outta high school and see how far most will get.

I get it that they put in long hours and that the colleges make a 'killing' with the sports programs (mainly football). But THAT'S part of what they signed up for. It would make no sense to have a "pro team" at a college which is supposedly about college students.

Maybe an increased stipend or something, but "paying them" is outright asinine thinking.

As for those complaining about them not being compensated for colleges using their likeness (while a student), I have a solution for the colleges:

Take their freaking names off the uniforms and the problem mostly goes away.

We've managed to raise a couple of whiney generations lately, it seems.

Oh, "Woe Is Them..."