Too Early.....

[blstoker]

It doesn't matter too much what the cap will really be - just know that Cleveland has about $70 million more in cap space than we do.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Cap been going up up up, expect it to flatten out, maybe starting now.

Seems like it's going up again for next year roughly another 10 mil.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Just the projected amount of $168 million. I have no concrete numbers on next year's cap - so for the moment, I am using that.

It was a week or two ago I read cap to go up roughly 10mil but nothing solid.

 

[MrS]

its insane that in another 7 years the cap will probably be a quarter of a billion dollars, if the league continues to grow revenue.

 

[blstoker]

It was a week or two ago I read cap to go up roughly 10mil but nothing solid.

Yeah, the $168 # is 13 higher than this year's roughly $155. If the cap stagnates - which is possible with the ratings issues and such the league had this year - the numbers aren't even as good as I posted earlier.

 

[chf]

Yeah, the $168 # is 13 higher than this year's roughly $155. If the cap stagnates - which is possible with the ratings issues and such the league had this year - the numbers aren't even as good as I posted earlier.

But ALL audiences are fragmenting, not just football. So really looked at not in a vacuum, the NFL is doing pretty damn well in maintaining revenue.

Of course ANYBODY could do that, since the narrative is that Goodell can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Yeah, the $168 # is 13 higher than this year's roughly $155. If the cap stagnates - which is possible with the ratings issues and such the league had this year - the numbers aren't even as good as I posted earlier.

The ratings are down but sales of merchandise are probably still up. If the NFL took a compete loss then I can see your numbers much lower. Hopefully a big enough increase to be able to land a o-line vet and sign our guys as needed.

 

[chf]

The ratings are down but sales of merchandise are probably still up. If the NFL took a compete loss then I can see your numbers much lower. Hopefully a big enough increase to be able to land a o-line vet and sign our guys as needed.

The NFL signs the deals for a # of years, and the networks are committed to paying that money. So the only way that the NFL loses money is down the road, if after taking a bath on ratings, the networks are unwilling to sign as big of a deal next time.

But again, ALL audiences (movie, tv, pretty much any entertainment) are becoming increasingly fragmented, so it would take a BIG prolonged dip in ratings for people to decide to abandon pro sports advertising buys in favor of something else.

But there's no short term hit for the NFL. If the ratings dip 6% this year, they still get 100% of their money.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

The NFL signs the deals for a # of years, and the networks are committed to paying that money. So the only way that the NFL loses money is down the road, if after taking a bath on ratings, the networks are unwilling to sign as big of a deal next time.

But again, ALL audiences (movie, tv, pretty much any entertainment) are becoming increasingly fragmented, so it would take a BIG prolonged dip in ratings for people to decide to abandon pro sports advertising buys in favor of something else.

But there's no short term hit for the NFL. If the ratings dip 6% this year, they still get 100% of their money.

True, hard to lose money when ESPN pays 100 mil to show one game. Hou vs Oak, ouch.

 

[chf]

True, hard to lose money when ESPN pays 100 mil to show one game. Hou vs Oak, ouch.

Right, and even ESPN knows that they're probably still going to be just fine.

Where's Mercedes going to go to reach 20 million weekly viewers in the sweet spot male with disposable income demographic?

The hoop?

Heh.

TV is still the behemoth in wide stream non niche marketing. And the NFL pulls in eyeballs like nobody's business.

Were they down a bit this year? Sure, but which industries/products weren't?

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Right, and even ESPN knows that they're probably still going to be just fine.

Where's Mercedes going to go to reach 20 million weekly viewers in the sweet spot male with disposable income demographic?

The hoop?

Heh.

TV is still the behemoth in wide stream non niche marketing. And the NFL pulls in eyeballs like nobody's business.

Were they down a bit this year? Sure, but which industries/products weren't?

True, the NFL is a billion dollar industry and only going to grow despite some drop in ratings but I bet those ratings go back up next year. The hoop generates $16.48 for the NFL which is up 20% from last year.

 

[Anointed One]

Were they down a bit this year? Sure, but which industries/products weren't?

I'm curious to know what drove that after the season... Was Direct TV, Comcast, etc down in subscriptions? Netflex, Amazon, etc taking more of that market share? The NFL product not what it use to be?

 

[chf]

I'm curious to know what drove that after the season... Was Direct TV, Comcast, etc down in subscriptions? Netflex, Amazon, etc taking more of that market share? The NFL product not what it use to be?

I don't think there's going to be a simple answer. There's just so much more CHOICE nowadays for your entertainment dollar. I can drop 80 on a top notch computer game and get a couple hundred hours of immersive entertainment where Russ Wilson isn't the hero, I AM. I can watch movies or stream TV shows anywhere, with one click any number of apps will point me towards every live entertainment event happening not just in my city, but in my neighborhood.

But despite that fragmentation, Popeye's Chicken or BMW or Proctor and Gamble haven't yet figured out how to niche reach all those competitors directly.

So while the NFL's overall #'s may be down, nobody is even in the same stratosphere when it comes to delivering millions of viewers in 3 hour chunks of time.

I figure the next big social media must have may change all the rules again eventually but we haven't seen it yet. Short 15 second ads glued onto youtube clips aren't really offering up much of a challenge to good ol' fashioned TV ads on NFL Sunday.

 

[gohusk]

Reports of Rawls demise were obviously premature.

 

[gohusk]

Richardson came to play.

 

[Anointed One]

Here is a UFA tracker for 2017 that's fun to use...

2017 NFL Free Agents Tracker

Outside OL, mainly OT, i'd be interested in pursuing DT, Nick Fairly and CB, Dre Kirkpatrick...

 

[MrS]

We dont have any big fa's, i could see us targetting one big fa since they seem to like comp picks and we wont be getting any this coming year

 

[Judge Fudge]

Dan Jereimah has us taking a CB from Bama. Marlon Humphrey

 

[JMR]

Dan Jereimah has us taking a CB from Bama. Marlon Humphrey

A CB wouldn't surprise me too much with the down year Lane had and playoff injury to Shead. A D-lineman wouldn't be a surprise either. Bennett & Avril both in their 30s, and we were at our best up front a few years ago when we were deep with the rotation.

 

[Anointed One]

A CB wouldn't surprise me too much with the down year Lane had and playoff injury to Shead. A D-lineman wouldn't be a surprise either. Bennett & Avril both in their 30s, and we were at our best up front a few years ago when we were deep with the rotation.

Interesting to note that Schneider hasn't drafted a CB in the first 3 rounds.. It's been round 4-7...