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Penn St. wins it all
 

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Probably michigan-msu final

I just hope the Buckeyes win 2 games at least
 

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I'll go with Michigan/Wisconsin

Michigan.
 

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Does iowa need to beat NW to make the tournament? A loss there and I think they'd be sweating selection Sunday a bit.
 

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They have no RPI 101-150 losses and 5 RPI 1-50 wins. I think they're ok.

If the committee takes 6 then one of Minnesota, Nebraska, or Iowa will be left out. Iowa split with Minnesota and beat Nebraska.
 

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Does iowa need to beat NW to make the tournament? A loss there and I think they'd be sweating selection Sunday a bit.

If Iowa doesn't beat NW they don't deserve to be in the NCAAs
 

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They have no RPI 101-150 losses and 5 RPI 1-50 wins. I think they're ok.

If the committee takes 6 then one of Minnesota, Nebraska, or Iowa will be left out. Iowa split with Minnesota and beat Nebraska.

Right now iowa has an rpi of 49. And while they do have 5 top 50ish wins(Xavier and Minnesota are right at the cut line) They did next to nothing out of conference, and have a terrible non conference SOS. IF they lose to NW on a neutral floor and Minnesota and Xavier bow out early in their tournaments, they'd only have 3 top 50 wins and a 7-11 record against the top 100. Their RPI would also take a significant hit and be in the high 50's. Just looking at their resume right now they are probably a 9 or 10 seed. I'm not saying they'll miss the tourney if they do lose, but I think it'll be close.
 

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Right now iowa has an rpi of 49. And while they do have 5 top 50ish wins(Xavier and Minnesota are right at the cut line) They did next to nothing out of conference, and have a terrible non conference SOS. IF they lose to NW on a neutral floor and Minnesota and Xavier bow out early in their tournaments, they'd only have 3 top 50 wins and a 7-11 record against the top 100. Their RPI would also take a significant hit and be in the high 50's. Just looking at their resume right now they are probably a 9 or 10 seed. I'm not saying they'll miss the tourney if they do lose, but I think it'll be close.

I think Iowa has a RPI of 39. They're 5-9 against 1-50, no real bad losses and haven't been blown out by anyone. They just simply don't play very good D.

They're in.
 

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Right now iowa has an rpi of 49. And while they do have 5 top 50ish wins(Xavier and Minnesota are right at the cut line) They did next to nothing out of conference, and have a terrible non conference SOS. IF they lose to NW on a neutral floor and Minnesota and Xavier bow out early in their tournaments, they'd only have 3 top 50 wins and a 7-11 record against the top 100. Their RPI would also take a significant hit and be in the high 50's. Just looking at their resume right now they are probably a 9 or 10 seed. I'm not saying they'll miss the tourney if they do lose, but I think it'll be close.

As of this morning Lunardi has them as an 8 seed. At worst they could fall back to Last Four Byes imo or Last Four In (play in).
 

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I think Iowa has a RPI of 39. They're 5-9 against 1-50, no real bad losses and haven't been blown out by anyone. They just simply don't play very good D.

They're in.

Yes, Iowa RPI is 39
 

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Maybe you guys are looking at a different site.

NCAA Men's Basketball RPI | NCAA.com

The official NCAA website has them at 49. This is the one the committee will use. I was surprised to see it that low, that's why I began to wonder if whether or not they were completely safe with a loss.
 

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Maybe you guys are looking at a different site.

NCAA Men's Basketball RPI | NCAA.com

The official NCAA website has them at 49. This is the one the committee will use. I was surprised to see it that low, that's why I began to wonder if whether or not they were completely safe with a loss.

I never understood the discrepancies between various rpi sites. Its such a basic formula.

Winning % * 0.25 + Opponents Winning % * 0.50 + Opponents' Opponents Winning % * 0.25

Unless its a matter of not being up to date...
 

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With all the SportsHoopla (no pun intended) surrounding Michigan and Wisconsin coming into the tourney, I will not be shocked in the least if neither team makes the finals. It's very hard and uncommon for a team to win both the regular season and conference tourneys in the same year, and if we draw Indiana in the 2nd round that is a scary matchup. I just don't have the faith in Wisconsin alot of people seem to have. They are another Bo Ryan team that is built for success in the B1G but always seems to find a way to blow it in the tourney. I could see them being knocked off by any number of teams next week.
I think a team flying under the radar next week is going to get hot and win this....MSU and OSU are my two picks to do that.
 

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I never understood the discrepancies between various rpi sites. Its such a basic formula.

Winning % * 0.25 + Opponents Winning % * 0.50 + Opponents' Opponents Winning % * 0.25

Unless its a matter of not being up to date...

I think espn has its own variance of the RPI. I could be wrong though. I know cbs sports uses the exact same thing as the ncaa official website.
 

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I never understood the discrepancies between various rpi sites. Its such a basic formula.

Winning % * 0.25 + Opponents Winning % * 0.50 + Opponents' Opponents Winning % * 0.25

Unless its a matter of not being up to date...

Previous RPI of 40....that could be it right there. I was viewing old index ratings.

I still think Iowa is in...regardless of the B1G Tourney. They may be cold of late but aren't getting blown out. "Complete body of work."
 

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I think espn has its own variance of the RPI. I could be wrong though. I know cbs sports uses the exact same thing as the ncaa official website.

Yep, because the ESPN RPI of 39 appears to be current.
 

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Previous RPI of 40....that could be it right there. I was viewing old index ratings.

I still think Iowa is in...regardless of the B1G Tourney. They may be cold of late but aren't getting blown out. "Complete body of work."

I agree in that I think even if they lose they'll get in. But their resume would be very very questionable with a loss to NW. All of this is probably moot because they will more than likely blow them out. Lol. Just an interesting observation.
 
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