This is comical....yeah no SEC bias

[bbwvfan]

It was barely tougher, as in not tough enough to make a big difference. "top25" while being easy to reach for is often used wrong because a team not ranked could be 26th, or 30th etc, and it's not like some big gap between ranked and not ranked.

It wasn't barely tougher… and you have to admit that.

How many good wins did Bama have in 2011? Don't be a homer…

 

[Anotherwvufan]

So, Alabama didn't schedule a tough game to start the season? i do give credit to Bama for playing a mid level B12 team that may be breaking out this year, however, Bama could lose that and still win the SEC with 2 losses and use the mulligan to get into the playoff.

The 2 best teams went. Just like if WVU ends up in the playoffs and so does Alabama, rematch isn't going to matter - it's going to be the 4 best teams.

. I see a difference between 2 OOC teams winning their conferences and making it to a playoff as opposed to losing to a team, have them play an extra conference CC while your team ge to to rest and heal and then getting a rematch. You were given a mulligan nothing more. Feel free to claim that one just like Pitt brags about 14 national championships.

 

[4down20]

. I see a difference between 2 OOC teams winning their conferences and making it to a playoff as opposed to losing to a team, have them play an extra conference CC while your team ge to to rest and heal and then getting a rematch. You were given a mulligan nothing more. Feel free to claim that one just like Pitt brags about 14 national championships.

So LSU lost and it's unfair because they had to play an extra game?

I don't believe at all that is the reason you are upset about 2011.

 

[WVUDAD]

The reason I thought the rematch sucked was the same reason I think it would have sucked had they put OSU and UM in it before. We, as fans got cheated, that game had been played and decided, if, through t he course of a playoff a rematch happens, so be it, but to have a one game "championship" being a rematch is and was

 

[Anotherwvufan]

So LSU lost and it's unfair because they had to play an extra game?

I don't believe at all that is the reason you are upset about 2011.

Are you a psychologist now? Not upset about 2011, or the other BCS conference rematches. LSU won earlier and Should have played the next best of the rest. Not only did LSU have to play a CC game, Bama got a bye week, that is an advantage. You can claim that Bama had the best collection of players in 2011 , but your NC was a sham.

 

[4down20]

Are you a psychologist now? Not upset about 2011, or the other BCS conference rematches. LSU won earlier and Should have played the next best of the rest. Not only did LSU have to play a CC game, Bama got a bye week, that is an advantage. You can claim that Bama had the best collection of players in 2011 , but your NC was a sham.

You know what is funny? The entire reason that happened with LSU and the extra game is because the SEC foolishly takes division champions for that game rather than the 2 best teams.

If the SEC had the SECCG as the 2 best teams rather than division champions, the game could have been played then, rather than it needing to go to the BCSNCG.

Just another reason why doing things based on labels rather than best teams is terrible.

 

[bbwvfan]

What did Bama do in 2011 to earn one of the best team labels? Beat one top 25 team?

That is a joke…

 

[Anotherwvufan]

You know what is funny? The entire reason that happened with LSU and the extra game is because the SEC foolishly takes division champions for that game rather than the 2 best teams.

If the SEC had the SECCG as the 2 best teams rather than division champions, the game could have been played then, rather than it needing to go to the BCSNCG.

Just another reason why doing things based on labels rather than best teams is terrible.

We could just have the Mythical national championship game before the season starts. Why play games to determine who is best when ESPN can just tell us.

 

[4down20]

We could just have the Mythical national championship game before the season starts. Why play games to determine who is best when ESPN can just tell us.

And with that, I'm done here. I have no time for fools who want to call championships mythical because they disagree with the way it's decided, or who wins it.

Have fun with that.

 

[mad2mc]

And with that, I'm done here. I have no time for fools who want to call championships mythical because they disagree with the way it's decided, or who wins it.

Have fun with that.

WOW - for somebody who came on this board and didn't like the fact that others did not support his opinions to go out like that is as comical as the title of this thread. That's right, only your opinion only count. Nobody else. Yea, we're the fools. Thanks for the education. Bless your heart.

 

[4down20]

WOW - for somebody who came on this board and didn't like the fact that others did not support his opinions to go out like that is as comical as the title of this thread. That's right, only your opinion only count. Nobody else. Yea, we're the fools. Thanks for the education. Bless your heart.

I guess you have a mythical win over me.

 

[mad2mc]

I guess you have a mythical win over me.

Not really. I do not get my rocks off trying to be right on a message board. If that defines you, then so be it. I've got better things to do in my life. I'll defend my point and if proven to be wrong, I will eat crow. Done it already with WVU's choice of DC. I enjoy coming on here and finding out the latest about my team, college, and conference. I also enjoy some of the discussions that take place with just about anyone who comes on. But when somebody attempts to stand on a soapbox and claims to attempt to educate me, well that is a different story. I'm willing to listen to somebody's opinion, which it appears you can't because what others say doesn't matter, and agree or disagree with it. When somebody sounds like a broken record, can't process resource information, or throws out shit, then it changes. You were doing alright on here until the true SEC homerism started to bleed through your posts. Everybody has a degree of homerism in them, but to come here and give us your "mightier than Tho" attitude, save it for your board. We all caught your backhanded swipe at us about not having a NC. Not the first to say that when they get challenged on these boards.

You've been on here long enough to know that the NC has been quoted as being mythical due to the fact that how it is determined is just that, mythical at times. Previously, with all of the different polls that determined the rankings, you could, and did, have multiple "NCs". It was passed out like bubble gum. When you have schools "claiming" to be or a school what was perceived to be handed the chance to redeem theirselves, then some will call it 'Mythical'. People have been asking for a better way to crown a NC and we went to a system that took in both polls as well as other factors. When the 'Rematch' happened, more people (their opinions) called for a better system. So it wasn't just the SEC, as you attempt to tell us, who wanted a new system.

So now we arrive to what we have today. I'm willing to give it a try and these first go around of rankings didn't get me excited. I feel they should expand to an 8 team system, you don't, so be it. But for you to say nobody opinions matter is senseless. The rules can be created to set the expectations on who would be selected. You feel that there isn't 8 teams worthy, but why can't you have more conferences (and you can). What makes them unworthy? I'm assuming you are using the rule that they MUST come out of a P5 conference. That's fine because that is how the rules are written, for now.

 

[4down20]

Not really. I do not get my rocks off trying to be right on a message board. If that defines you, then so be it. I've got better things to do in my life. I'll defend my point and if proven to be wrong, I will eat crow. Done it already with WVU's choice of DC. I enjoy coming on here and finding out the latest about my team, college, and conference. I also enjoy some of the discussions that take place with just about anyone who comes on. But when somebody attempts to stand on a soapbox and claims to attempt to educate me, well that is a different story. I'm willing to listen to somebody's opinion, which it appears you can't because what others say doesn't matter, and agree or disagree with it. When somebody sounds like a broken record, can't process resource information, or throws out shit, then it changes. You were doing alright on here until the true SEC homerism started to bleed through your posts. Everybody has a degree of homerism in them, but to come here and give us your "mightier than Tho" attitude, save it for your board. We all caught your backhanded swipe at us about not having a NC. Not the first to say that when they get challenged on these boards.

You've been on here long enough to know that the NC has been quoted as being mythical due to the fact that how it is determined is just that, mythical at times. Previously, with all of the different polls that determined the rankings, you could, and did, have multiple "NCs". It was passed out like bubble gum. When you have schools "claiming" to be or a school what was perceived to be handed the chance to redeem theirselves, then some will call it 'Mythical'. People have been asking for a better way to crown a NC and we went to a system that took in both polls as well as other factors. When the 'Rematch' happened, more people (their opinions) called for a better system. So it wasn't just the SEC, as you attempt to tell us, who wanted a new system.

So now we arrive to what we have today. I'm willing to give it a try and these first go around of rankings didn't get me excited. I feel they should expand to an 8 team system, you don't, so be it. But for you to say nobody opinions matter is senseless. The rules can be created to set the expectations on who would be selected. You feel that there isn't 8 teams worthy, but why can't you have more conferences (and you can). What makes them unworthy? I'm assuming you are using the rule that they MUST come out of a P5 conference. That's fine because that is how the rules are written, for now.

What happened in 2011 is fact and history. I told you why it happened, and your opinions on if it is legit or not doesn't change it. So, yes, I have educated you on why no matter if you accept it or not.

What backhanded swipe about not having a NC?

And of course, because you don't agree with my opinion - it must be homerism huh? :rollseyes:

The mythical championship line is one of the lamest things any supposed college football fan can ever say. It stinks of butthurt.

People, aka the Pac12, Big10 and Big12 only wanted to change the system once they were left out. Not because of what is in the best interest of football. Just like right now with conference champions - they only want it that way because it benefits them, not because it's in the best interest of football.

Meanwhile, you guys sit around and cry about "SEC Bias" as if there is no way it can be legitimate that the SEC is better. But I'm the homer for saying otherwise?

 

[4down20]

Let's make a list of sources that are apparently biased shall we?

AP Poll - which is made up of about 60+ writers across the country evenly spread out across each state. Most states get like 1 voter, some bigger states get 2 or 3. These guys put 3 SEC teams in the top5. Bias apparently.

Coaches Poll - Made up of coaches across the country. 3 SEC teams in the top5. Another source that is bias right?

Computer polls - which are made up of data only. Extremely biased apparently. College Football Ranking Composite Made up of over 100 different ranking systems puts 4 SEC teams in the top5 on average. The SEC bias goes so deep - it's even in the data.

Vegas - College Football Futures - NCAA Football Future Sportsbook Odds at VegasInsider.com has a SEC bias. The 3 teams most likely to win the national championship are from the SEC. But it gets even worse. Some people even go so far as to say the SEC is so good, there is actually bias against it Phil Steele, CFB - ESPN, and Vegas insiders are apparently biased too - 4 out of 5 in the top5 are from the SEC West.

The NFL - Where Does NFL Talent Come From? | Bleacher Report Has SEC bias. More former SEC players play in the SEC than any other conference - and it's getting worse. As lately, more than 1/3 of the entire 1st round picks have come from the SEC, and the total number of players drafted dwarfs other conferences.

And of course, the recruiting rankings that come out year after year - Where Does NFL Talent Come From? | Bleacher Report they are all biased as well. Four of the top five, five of the top seven, and seven of the top eleven 2015 recruiting classes are in the SEC. The average SEC team has 1,565 points in the Rivals ranking. The ACC is second at 1,189 followed by the Big Ten at 995, the Pac-12 at 877, and the Big 12 at 856.

Is there a single source out there which isn't apparently biased towards the SEC? At what point do we say - hey, maybe that "homer" who was really just trying to have a discussion with people who refuse to admit the truth may be right? Or, do you instead keep dumping on me with stupid bullshit about 2011 and all this other bias claims because you can't handle the truth? Do you keep on claiming bias and saying things like "should be conference champions" as a means of ignoring every source in the country in order to get a hand out for your conference? Apparently so.

And if that is the mindset around here, and it's clear that it is - then what is there left to discuss? Thus, I'm moving on.

But hey, thanks for "giving it a chance". Which really means - my conference better get bias thrown towards it, while I call others homers for pointing out the facts.

 

[jjc2009]

Relax. They're called "mythical" because the NCAA has never crowned a NC. For much of the sport's history it was decided by various polls, and, eventually, the BCS system.

They're noy mythical in the sense that they are not recognized, although there is a silly trend now for a lot of teams to revise history and claim more than were previously recognized, for marketing/bragging.

 

[4down20]

Relax. They're called "mythical" because the NCAA has never crowned a NC. For much of the sport's history it was decided by various polls, and, eventually, the BCS system.

They're noy mythical in the sense that they are not recognized, although there is a silly trend now for a lot of teams to revise history and claim more than were previously recognized, for marketing/bragging.

It's the format agreed upon by every team who joins the FBS and NCAA regardless of how much people like it or not. The only time people call them mythical is when they are butt hurt.

 

[trojanfan12]

And with that, I'm done here. I have no time for fools who want to call championships mythical because they disagree with the way it's decided, or who wins it.

Have fun with that.

I see 4d20 has moved his tired schtick to the WVU boards.

Writes an "I'm outta here" post and then posts 5 more times.

Used to threaten to leave the Hoop every time he got his jimmies rustled on the main boards.


I'm done here. I mean it this time. - 4down20

 

[4down20]

I see 4d20 has moved his tired schtick to the WVU boards.

Writes an "I'm outta here" post and then posts 5 more times.

Used to threaten to leave the Hoop every time he got his jimmies rustled on the main boards.

I'm done here. I mean it this time. - 4down20

 

[mad2mc]

What happened in 2011 is fact and history. I told you why it happened, and your opinions on if it is legit or not doesn't change it. So, yes, I have educated you on why no matter if you accept it or not.

You really educated me. All that knowledge about 2011 being fact and history. I'm surprised it is not in the history books by now. I resisted being educated until I realized that I could be similar to you. Hopefully you're a 'Bama fan and not an alumnus. I know so many smart/educated people from that fine institution and hate to think that their education could be cheapen by the smart ones like you. Grasshopper.

What backhanded swipe about not having a NC?

Went from being the teacher to being stupid, all in one thread.

And of course, because you don't agree with my opinion - it must be homerism huh? :rollseyes:

No. See this is where I know that you are just a SEC fan riding on 'Bama's jock. See, when you do not agree with another person's opinion, it does not constitute homerism. That is a difference of opinion. You will not understand that because you feel your opinion is the only one. Remember, nobody else's matters. You can do better than this Grasshopper.

The mythical championship line is one of the lamest things any supposed college football fan can ever say. It stinks of butthurt.

All your opinion. If not the case, why is it being changed? How many championships did 'Bama claim in the early 1900's?

People, aka the Pac12, Big10 and Big12 only wanted to change the system once they were left out. Not because of what is in the best interest of football. Just like right now with conference champions - they only want it that way because it benefits them, not because it's in the best interest of football.

You said the SEC wanted to change the playoff landscape. Now it's everybody else who wants to change the landscape. Are you suddenly confused? Which way is it? We want to know from all your wisdom.

Meanwhile, you guys sit around and cry about "SEC Bias" as if there is no way it can be legitimate that the SEC is better. But I'm the homer for saying otherwise?

Blinded by your homerism. Nobody denied the SEC brand but all it took was for Another to say you guys got a mulligan and your head explodes. Too funny. Did you get your little feelings hurt?

 

[4down20]

You said the SEC wanted to change the playoff landscape. Now it's everybody else who wants to change the landscape. Are you suddenly confused? Which way is it? We want to know from all your wisdom.

Obviously the other conferences had to vote different to get it changed. Before 2011, they always voted against it. So yes, before 2011 - only the SEC and ACC voted in favor of playoffs. After 2011, the other conferences finally changed their vote.

Blinded by your homerism. Nobody denied the SEC brand but all it took was for Another to say you guys got a mulligan and your head explodes. Too funny. Did you get your little feelings hurt?

This thread is about SEC bias.