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I haven't watched the last couple seasons. Is Clementine on the show yet?
Kirkman has confirmed that there are 3 distinct Walking Dead “universes”.

1) the books
2) the show
3) the tell-tale games

While there could be similarities between the 3, they are all still completely independent.
 

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I took it as Carl doing all of the envisions.

Take a look at the last one. Carl was already gone I thought and Rick woke up.

I took it as all from Carl's vision of the future, particularly the scene with Negan.
No way would that be in Rick's ideal future....
 

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I thought it was funny that all they did to make Rick look older was make his hair/beard white.
 

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I took it as all from Carl's vision of the future, particularly the scene with Negan.
No way would that be in Rick's ideal future....

Who said it was an ideal future?

The sequence in the show is Carl dies.
Then, Rick and Michonne dig a grave showing some time has passed.
Then it shows the last vision.
Finally, it goes to Rick spaced out under a tree and an interesting reaction from him. The look on his face was almost “no way.”
 

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Who said it was an ideal future?

The sequence in the show is Carl dies.
Then, Rick and Michonne dig a grave showing some time has passed.
Then it shows the last vision.
Finally, it goes to Rick spaced out under a tree and an interesting reaction from him. The look on his face was almost “no way.”

It was Carl's ideal future.
It's what he thought they should become.

Rick was trying to understand Carl's vision and how best to honor his wishes.
If that included Negan, that's why Rick was struggling with it.
He's conflicted with honoring the memory of Carl and the reality of the new world....
 

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It was Carl's ideal future.
It's what he thought they should become.

Rick was trying to understand Carl's vision and how best to honor his wishes.
If that included Negan, that's why Rick was struggling with it.
He's conflicted with honoring the memory of Carl and the reality of the new world....

Timeline doesn’t work.

That is why I am saying the final vision was Rick’s.
 

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The whole thing felt like they WANTED me to cry. Like they thought I would, or could.

But nope. Completely over-the-top attempts at hitting the feels, and they all failed. I totally cared more about the Carol/Morgan story than the Carl story.

This.

So fucking lame. I couldn't even give it my full attention. When it would get extra slow, I'd pick up my iPad and browse through my nude photos of @beardown07's grandma.
 

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Timeline doesn’t work.

That is why I am saying the final vision was Rick’s.
I agree. I think it was Rick's vision and it seemed like the whole episode was a dream based on the ending of the episode? Unless I misinterpreted the ending?
 

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Timeline doesn’t work.

That is why I am saying the final vision was Rick’s.

My thinking was that Rick was envisioning what Carl had in mind.
We might be saying the same thing.
It was Rick's vision, but it was Carl's ideals that were driving it.
I think.
It's a definite maybe.....
 

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My thinking was that Rick was envisioning what Carl had in mind.
We might be saying the same thing.
It was Rick's vision, but it was Carl's ideals that were driving it.
I think.
It's a definite maybe.....

Exactly what I am thinking. It shows Carl did show Rick the way.
 

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I haven't watched the entire episode yet, but if ya'll are this confused about exactly what was goin' on, it doesn't bode well.
 
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