The Shooting Thread

[MHSL82]

18 games into the season...

18 Best Games

1. Favors: 10/12. 83.3%, Game #17
2. Gobert: 5/5, 100.0%, Game #4
3. Ingles: 5/5, 100.0%, Game #16
4. Favors: 7/9, 77.8%, Game #1
4. Gobert: 7/9, 77.8%, Game #5
6. Favors: 8/11, 72.8%, Game #19
6. Gobert: 8/11, 72.8%, Game #3
8. Favors: 6/8, 75.0%, Game #20
9. Neto: 9/14, 64.3%, Game #16
10. Jerebecko: 7/11, 63.6%, Game #17
10. Favors: 7/11, 63.6%, Game #6
12. Ingles: 4/4 (3/3 Downtown), 100.0%, Game #15
13. Rubio: 4/5 (2/2 Downtown), 80.0%, Game #20
14. Favors: 4/6 (2/3 Downtown), 66.7%, Game #10
15. Mitchell: 9/15 (6/10 Downtown), 60.0%, Game #20
15. Favors: 9/15, 60.0%, Game #13
15. Hood: 9/15, 60.0%, Game #7
18. Hood: 12/21, 57.1%, Game #17
19. Mitchell: 10/18, 55.6%, Game #13
20. Mitchell: 10/19, 52.6%, Game #14

150/224 - 66.96%

20 Worst Games

1. Hood: 0/11, 0.0%, Game #8
2. Mitchell: 1/10, 10.0%, Game #19
2. Burks: 1/10, 10.0%, Game #18
2. Burks: 1/10, 10.0%, Game #17
5. Mitchell: 3/11, 14.3%, Game #11
6. Ingles: 0/6, 0.0%, Game #14
7. Rubio: 0/5, 0.0%, Game #8
8. Hood: 5/19, 26.3%, Game #12
9. Rubio: 4/16, 25.0%, Game #11
10. Rubio: 3/12, 25.0%, Game #9
11. Rubio: 1/7, 14.3%, Game #14
11. Johnson: 1/7, 14.3%, Game #5
11. Mitchell: 1/7, 14.3%, Game #5
11. Mitchell: 1/7, 14.3%, Game #3
11. Mitchell: 1/7, 14.3%, Game #2
16. Hood: 5/17, 29.4%, Game #18
17. Hood: 4/14, 28.6%, Game #11
18. Mitchell: 6/19, 31.6%, Game #18
18. Hood: 6/19, 31.6%, Game #19
20. Bradley: 0/4, 0.0%, Game 17

44/218 - 20.18%

 

[nuraman00]

Who appears the most on both lists?

 

[MHSL82]

Who appears the most on both lists?

Shooting guards worst. Then, point guards.

Centers best. Then forwards.

But that's obvious due to position. Distance, role.

Hood, bad. Mitchell had. Favors, good. Gobert, better.

But I tell you it's pretty awful when I recorded 5/8 shooting as one of the best shooting nights because I was used to seeing so many 3-14 type nights. I started thinking 4-14 is "only" 3 made shots away from 50%. I really couldn't find an 18th best night that was acceptably big enough shot-count-wise.

 

[MHSL82]

In Wins

165 Shot 50% or Above
143 Shot Below 50%

118 Shot Over 33.3% (99 50% or Above) on 3-PT Shots
103 Shot 33.3% or Below on 3-PT Shots

95 Shot Above 75% on Free Throws (94 above 80%)
62 Shot 75% or below on Free Throws (33 shot 50% or below; 14 below 50%)

In Losses

110 Shot 50% or Above
160 Shot Below 50%

75 Shot Over 33.3% (60 shot 50% or Above) on 3-PT Shots
124 Shot 33.3% or Below on 3-PT Shots (73 Shot below 20%)

96 Shot Above 75% on Free Throws (95 above 80%)
62 Shot 75% or below on Free Throws (37 shot 50% or below; 11 below 50%)

Overall

275 Shot 50% or Above
303 Shot Below 50%

193 Shot Over 33.3% (159 50% or Above) on 3-PT Shots
227 Shot 33.3% or Below on 3-PT Shots

191 Shot Above 75% on Free Throws (189 above 80%)
124 Shot 75% or below on Free Throws (70 shot 50% or below; 25 below 50%)

 

[MHSL82]

Yes, yes, I know... Shoot better and you have better chances of winning! Shocker!!

49.0% in Wins versus 42.2% in Losses.

 

[MHSL82]

Overall Only (Because I don't want to break it down):

20 Best FG Games:

12-14 Hood
10-12 Favors
9-11 Favors
11-14 Rubio
12-16
12-16
7-8 Ingles
7-8
7-9
7-9
7-9
7-9
14-19 Mitchell
14-19 Mitchell
11-16
9-12 Favors
9-13
8-11
8-11
8-11


20 Worst FG Games

0-11 Hood
0-7
1-10
1-10
1-10
1-10
3-21
1-8
1-8
4-17
4-17
4-16
4-16
3-12
5-19
6-21
4-14
2-9
2-9
2-9

There were better shooting games percentage wise (like 1/1 or 4/5) and worse games, like (0-6, 0-5), but these stood out more. I also did not put them in order.

 

[nuraman00]

In Wins

165 Shot 50% or Above
143 Shot Below 50%

118 Shot Over 33.3% (99 50% or Above) on 3-PT Shots
103 Shot 33.3% or Below on 3-PT Shots

95 Shot Above 75% on Free Throws (94 above 80%)
62 Shot 75% or Below on Free Throws (33 shot 50% or below; 14 below 50%)

What do 165 and 143 mean?

 

[nuraman00]

Yes, yes, I know... Shoot better and you have better chances of winning! Shocker!!

49.0% in Wins versus 42.2% in Losses.

It could be a shocker. I'm sure there's some teams that have a better record when shooting more poorly, because they do some of the other things better. Like maybe turn it over less.

 

[MHSL82]

What do 165 and 143 mean?

If Favors shoots 7-11 in a game and Mitchell shot 14-19, that counts as 2 performances of 50% or greater. If you shot 0-0, you weren't counted either way.

 

[nuraman00]

Thanks.

Then the way you organized your data, is kind of a new way of looking at it. By how many players shot 50%.

75% on FTs or better is too low of a standard.

The Jazz average .797 on FTs.

Maybe 80 or 79% should be the standards that are checked against.

 

[MHSL82]

Thanks.

Then the way you organized your data, is kind of a new way of looking at it. By how many players shot 50%.

75% on FTs or better is too low of a standard.

The Jazz average .797 on FTs.

Maybe 80 or 79% should be the standards that are checked against.

Yeah. When I separated it, I put one column where they made all or missed just one FT and the other where they missed more. Or if someone shot 1-2, it belonged in the second group. But then, when I was done, I figured that 2-3 wasn't good enough either. So I moved those over. Then, I thought, 75% was too low, so I said how many were above 75% and how many were 80% or above separately in parentheses. It's hard with not very many people shoot more than for free throws in a game. Missing one automatically makes your percentage bad. I didn't want to simply say that a lot of people shot below 75%.

By the way, 75% did not count in the above. 76-78.something% was the lowest.

 

[MHSL82]

 

[nuraman00]

Good post. Surprised Sabonis isn't on here.