The Punisher (TV series)

[Clayton]

Overall it was uneven for me.

Good
1. Jon Bernthal is awesome. He seems born to play the role and gives a great effort. He will forever be the character for all time. He gave the best by far acting effort of anyone tackling that character.
2. The smaller supporting characters were great actors as well.
3. There are Fun Action Sequences
4. It ambitiously tackled a mature issue in dealing with PTDS and the morality of War
5. Did I mention Great Acting? It deserves a second mention. It was well acted.

Bad
1. Too many episodes. It comes to crawl at times. The story could have happened in 8 episodes.

2. The Female Lead is written poorly. She comes off as a stupid fuckwit who gets by on blind luck. They tried to make her some smart swaggering intelligent tough woman, but the exact opposite unfolds. Worse still, any scene with her puts you to sleep because she commits the cardinal sin of TELLING the audience instead of SHOWING the audience. The actor was not horrible, but the writers were awful with her character.

3. The plot is simple but it becomes boring when stretched out too far. Even the slowly building "twists" are telegraphed from about 1000 miles away so that any 8 year old could tell it was coming. More bad writing overall. A simple plot doesn't need endless filler to make it a great plot. Simple is often the best. The writers panicked and thought it needed to drawn out because it wasnt complex.

72/100 score

Bernthal deserves a better script. He made a below average script into something decent.
With a good script, he could make this character an all-time TV great.

What is really frustrating is that there are some really interesting things in the script but its way too padded with boring....crap...for lack of a better word.

I just got done with episode 12 which is basically the episode where all of the big soap opera moments and action moments come to a finale and....it....sucks. Soap Opera is the exact term I would use to describe the padding. It straight up mixes Days of Our Lives plot lines in with military PTSD, realistic action scenes and unrealistic action scenes.

It spends so much time building up certain plot points and then just wastes them. Bill as a character just bothers me. He is basically the most interesting character in the whole show and they just got it all wrong. He is too evil, they never do a good job of showing him as a reliable friend to Frank and Anvil is too ridiculous just being the red shirts that give the show enough bodies so it can resemble the Punisher.

Bernthal is different as the Punisher but in some areas I agree that he is fantastic. Especially as the show goes along he really brings out the Punisher personality perfectly and almost seems to mix in Deniro for good measure. There are about 4 fantastic episodes where he really takes over and the show really works and then there is the rest of the show which is just a waste of time.

I even think a 72 might be too high. They could've cut out about half of the season and it would've been notably better.

 

[MarkOU]

On episode 10. Great series.

 

[Godstree]

I finished it. Liked it but way too much just crap. Should have been much shorter.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

 

[chf]

Heh. So less character development, more action. And yet when we get shows/movies like THAT, we complain about it too.

So it goes I suppose.

 

[SDGuy73]

12/12: Marvel's The Punisher (Netflix) renewed for a 2nd season.

 

[The Q]

Biggest mistake so far: federal agents assume a dead man is alive after an 11 year old brat calls the tip line.

Beyond stupid.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

Just finished watching this a couple of nights ago. I thought it was one of the better Marvel Netflix series but it still could've been condensed down by a few episodes.

 

[The Q]

Just finished watching this a couple of nights ago. I thought it was one of the better Marvel Netflix series but it still could've been condensed down by a few episodes.

that seems to be the theme with most of them.

 

[The Q]

All this talk about plot holes and no one mentions how his one-legged friend should've made Castle not a suspect for the bombings after about 1 police statement.

 

[The Q]

It spends so much time building up certain plot points and then just wastes them. Bill as a character just bothers me. He is basically the most interesting character in the whole show and they just got it all wrong. He is too evil, they never do a good job of showing him as a reliable friend to Frank and Anvil is too ridiculous just being the red shirts that give the show enough bodies so it can resemble the Punisher.

They showed those in the flashbacks. The ambush gone wrong, the tent scene etc.

 

[The Q]

Why even pretend making this an MCU movie? Even a Netflix MCU movie?

I am about 5 or 6 eps in, and it is hardly even a comic book movie. No mention of “the Event”, but there is mention of 9/11. Without Karen, and a few mentions of her past, there is not even a background tie-in to the MCU.

That aside, solid show. Gritty af.

Somewhat unfair considering the entire show is based on the events in and revealed in DD2.

 

[GNG]

I liked both Punisher movies.

 

[GNG]

I also liked John Wick and John Wick II.

 

[Clayton]

They showed those in the flashbacks. The ambush gone wrong, the tent scene etc.

I guess I never bought Bill as a good friend. They do have one good scene in the last episode but I actually typed that blurb right before watching the last episode.

I still think they made him too evil. It made the female lead a joke.

 

[The Q]

I guess I never bought Bill as a good friend. They do have one good scene in the last episode but I actually typed that blurb right before watching the last episode.

I still think they made him too evil. It made the female lead a joke.

I’d say cutting the zip ties on his wrist would count too.

 

[The Q]

I guess I never bought Bill as a good friend. They do have one good scene in the last episode but I actually typed that blurb right before watching the last episode.

I still think they made him too evil. It made the female lead a joke.

How? She started this whole thing off by using him and his company to further her investigation too.

 

[Clayton]

How? She started this whole thing off by using him and his company to further her investigation too.

Yeah, but she was literally sleeping with the enemy who was a noticable sociopath.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

All this talk about plot holes and no one mentions how his one-legged friend should've made Castle not a suspect for the bombings after about 1 police statement.

I wondered that myself. He should've come out and said that Frank saved his life by deactivating the bomb and who the bomber actually was.

 

[The Q]

Yeah, but she was literally sleeping with the enemy who was a noticable sociopath.

he also fooled frank and curtis for the half the season too.