The Gordon Hayward Thread

[nuraman00]

Jazz got to quit branding themselves as a development franchise. We don't want to continually be a farm team for the big markets to reap.

I think every situation is different. And the FAs that leave, the don't always go to big markets.

Wes Matthews went to Portland.

Hayward was also considering Miami (a mid to small market). Pat Riley and no income tax in Florida were probably factors.

Deron Williams, Boozer, Millsap, Favors, and Gobert all signed at least one extension.

For Hayward, I'd also be a little nervous since last year was the first great year he had.

Also, I don't think he's going to like his lesser role in Boston. He's not going to get the ball much, and the media will eat him for having that contract but not scoring like he did last year. He's someone who was always trying to prove he belonged with the other stars, and now he won't get the ball enough to really fit in.



As for Favors, this might be premature, but I think injuries have hampered him, and I don't know if he can get back to his previous form.

Exum still could show something, but time is running out.

Let's see what else the Jazz do in FA.

They made the right move by not resigning Hill.

I also feel bad for Ricky Rubio since he flew 13-15 hours from Spain just for the meeting with Hayward.

 

[redseat]

are people seriously burning his jersey now? Come on guys

 

[nuraman00]

are people seriously burning his jersey now? Come on guys

What jerseys have Celtics fans burned in the past?

 

[nuraman00]

 

[redseat]

What jerseys have Celtics fans burned in the past?

Burning a jersey because someone leaves in a trade or FA is flat out ridiculous

 

[nuraman00]

Burning a jersey because someone leaves in a trade or FA is flat out ridiculous

But I'm sure some fans have done it, especially given how long the Celtics franchise has existed.

 

[nuraman00]

 

[nuraman00]

Celtics fans burning jerseys:

A Celtics fan burned his Markelle Fultz jersey after Boston traded the No. 1 pick

PHOTO: Ray Allen Jersey Burned After He Leaves Celtics, Signs With Heat

 

[nuraman00]

I do think most of these burnings are just so someone can be more visible on social media.

 

[redseat]

But I'm sure some fans have done it, especially given how long the Celtics franchise has existed.

They probably have but I still would call them idiots

 

[nuraman00]

He's wearing an unbranded undershirt.

Thank You, Utah | The Players' Tribune

 

[MHSL82]

They say he had someone ghostwrite three versions. If it's supposed to be heartfelt, write it yourself if you aren't uneducated.

Didn't like how late he made his mind up. Jazz talked trade at trade deadline. Reportedly suggested by Hayward's camp. Opt out late so you have liability coverage, but let us know. You had time.

 

[Sackataters]

Can we rename this the Gordon Haywood thread?

 

[nuraman00]

Can we rename this the Gordon Haywood thread?

Why? I don't get the joke.

 

[nuraman00]

They say he had someone ghostwrite three versions. If it's supposed to be heartfelt, write it yourself if you aren't uneducated.

Didn't like how late he made his mind up. Jazz talked trade at trade deadline. Reportedly suggested by Hayward's camp. Opt out late so you have liability coverage, but let us know. You had time.

I don't think it would have mattered. A team trading for a rental that will be a FA at the year's end isn't going to give up much.

Plus, the Celtics have to shed salary to make the deal work. So they'll start trading away pieces, maybe some in a sign-and-trade for Hayward.

And if Boston doesn't, then Dennis Lindsey can still make some good moves for good contracts, and see what Hood can do in a larger role.

Losing Hayward will hurt some, but it's not as bad as losing a true superstar.

I also think often, when teams are forced to do a sign-and-trade for a departing FA, then they rarely get anything good back anyways, and often it's bad or long contracts. There's not much that can be gained from a departing FA.

The L.A. Lakers traded Shaq for Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, and Brian Grant. Brian Grant was waived before the season started, and Butler was traded to Washington within a year.

Not even a MVP player in Shaq could get more than essentially an inconsistent sub-All Star player in Shaq.

If someone leaves, then Lindsey will have to make moves to get the talent level back. Hopefully it doesn't take him too long. Getting someone back immediately who may be on a bad contract isn't as much of a concern, as how to get the team moving forward 1-2 years from now.

 

[nuraman00]

They say he had someone ghostwrite three versions. If it's supposed to be heartfelt, write it yourself if you aren't uneducated.

How would the ghostwriter know about Mark McKown or Isaiah Wright?

Thank You, Utah | The Players' Tribune

 

[nuraman00]

What's the difference between the Salt Lake Tribune, and the Players' Tribune?

Why are both named "Tribune"

 

[nuraman00]

I haven't watched it yet, I'll do it later this summer.

Gordon Hayward's top 10 moments with the Utah Jazz

 

[nuraman00]

I wonder who all of the draft picks are that have been booed by the Jazz fans.

There's 2 on this list:

Top 15 NBA Stars Who Were Booed On Draft Day And Proved The Fans Wrong

 

[nuraman00]

Monson: Goodbye, Gordon Hayward, whoever you are