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The B1G replaces the SEC as college football's most overrated conference

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Here is the B1G

Elite:

Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Nebraska (iffy)

Average:

Wisconsin (yes they have never won a Natty but they play at this medium/higher level)
Michigan State
Iowa

Wisconsin will always be elite. Not the biggest Penn State supporter by any stretch. I consider them average tier. Michigan State is on he upper part of average; near elite.
 

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Big12:

Oklahoma
Texas

Average:

Oklahoma State (argument could be made based on history that they belong in bottom)
TCU
Kansas State (argument could be made based on history that they belong in bottom)
West Virginia

Bottom:

Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas
Iowa State
 

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Big12:

Oklahoma
Texas

Average:

Oklahoma State (argument could be made based on history that they belong in bottom)
TCU
Kansas State (argument could be made based on history that they belong in bottom)
West Virginia

Bottom:

Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas
Iowa State

No arguments here. This is accurate.
 

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Wisconsin will always be elite. Not the biggest Penn State supporter by any stretch. I consider them average tier. Michigan State is on he upper part of average; near elite.

Disagree. Wisconsin has yet to win at the higher level. They have won B1G Championships (usually when the league was down) but they are not putting together teams that can compete for National Championships. In fact, I don't ever remember Wisconsin being in the National Title talk.

Penn State has competed for National Titles and they are in the talk. Penn State is rated over Wisconsin in nearly ever all-time CFB poll.
 

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Pac12

Elite:

USC
UCLA
Washington

Average:

Oregon (they were a flavor of the month)
Stanford
Colorado (recent CFB fans do not remember that this team use to have 10 win seasons often)
Arizona State

Bottom:

Cal
Arizona
Oregon State
Washington State
Utah (argument could be made to put them at average. Still I want to see how they perform in the Pac12 long-term)
 

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Disagree. Wisconsin has yet to win at the higher level. They have won B1G Championships (usually when the league was down) but they are not putting together teams that can compete for National Championships. In fact, I don't ever remember Wisconsin being in the National Title talk.

Penn State has competed for National Titles and they are in the talk. Penn State is rated over Wisconsin in nearly ever all-time CFB poll.

Agree to disagree.

I always see Wisconsin as one of the few programs who can compete and actually beat Ohio State periodically in that conference, which is the opposite of Penn State. That makes them elite.
 

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Pac12

Elite:

USC
UCLA
Washington

Average:

Oregon (they were a flavor of the month)
Stanford
Colorado (recent CFB fans do not remember that this team use to have 10 win seasons often)
Arizona State

Bottom:

Cal
Arizona
Oregon State
Washington State
Utah (argument could be made to put them at average. Still I want to see how they perform in the Pac12 long-term)

Utah definitely deserves to be in the average tier. Other than that, looks good.
 

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ACC

Elite:

FSU
Miami
Notre Dame

Average:

Clemson (They are up now, but their history states that they do not play at this level often enough to get above the average tier)
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Louisville

Bottom:

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
North Carolina
NC State (argument can be made to put them in average tier)
Virginia (argument can be made to put them in average tier)
 

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ACC

Elite:

FSU
Miami
Notre Dame

Average:

Clemson (They are up now, but their history states that they do not play at this level often enough to get above the average tier)
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Louisville

Bottom:

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
North Carolina
NC State (argument can be made to put them in average tier)
Virginia (argument can be made to put them in average tier)

N.D. shouldn't be included. They're an independent.
 

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ACC

Elite:

FSU
Miami
Notre Dame

Average:

Clemson (They are up now, but their history states that they do not play at this level often enough to get above the average tier)
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Louisville

Bottom:

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
North Carolina
NC State (argument can be made to put them in average tier)
Virginia (argument can be made to put them in average tier)

Miami has been average since the Orange Bowl ( 2005 I think ). Syracuse is a bottom tier program in football. They stink lol. North Carolina is better than them.
 

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SEC all-time rating:

Elite (Competes for National Titles Periodically):

Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
LSU
Tennessee

Average (Can have top ten seasons and won Natty in past but does not compete for Nattys typically):

Ole Miss
Arkansas
Texas A&M

Bottom Tier (Can lose to anyone. Typically happy to make bowl games regularly)

Vandy
Missouri
South Carolina
Mississippi State
Kentucky

Since when does Alabama compete for National Titles Periodically? They compete for the Title Annually.
 

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You could probably put ohio state in that Annually Challenge for the National Title, but I don't like ohio state.

Hey if I ever see you rooting for the Buckeyes I'll be greatly disappointed.:D
 

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Hey if I ever see you rooting for the Buckeyes I'll be greatly disappointed.:D

I would root for the buckeyes to implode ... I couldn't ever root for ohio state, you have to allow a certain amount of hate out, if not, you'll go crazy. I thank God every day for ohio state.
 

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I would root for the buckeyes to implode ... I couldn't ever root for ohio state, you have to allow a certain amount of hate out, if not, you'll go crazy. I thank God every day for ohio state.

You know what I'm thankful for?

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B1G may be the most overrated, but they are not at the same level as SEC was a few years ago. SEC would enter seasons with 7-8 ranked teams. B1G has 5 in the top 35 (4 in the top 10 and the 35th).

So, I wouldn't put them at the same standard as SEC was.
 

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Miami has been average since the Orange Bowl ( 2005 I think ). Syracuse is a bottom tier program in football. They stink lol. North Carolina is better than them.

Syracuse has a lot stronger history than North Carolina (including winning a National Title). However, I thought about putting them in bottom tier because I don't see Syracuse trending back up.

Syracuse was a good program (top 15) when I first started watching college football so they have had their ups.
 
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