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To make matters worse, Tom is home in NYC this week for fashion week
 

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In Aaron Rodger playoff losses, the packers defense has surrendered an average of roughly 32 plus points

Before Sunday, I did this little exercise last week

In Brady playoff losses, Pats D averaged 23
My math is a wee bit rusty, but I believe 32 is higher than 23 and Rock.....
 

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Scratch that, no one is higher than Rock.....
 

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So in last year's SB Donte Hightower didn't strip Ryan of the ball, Ryan fumbled.

Got it.
Wrong. The two are not mutually exclusive, but correct that Ryan absolutely fumbled
 

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In Aaron Rodger playoff losses, the packers defense has surrendered an average of roughly 32 plus points

Before Sunday, I did this little exercise last week

In Brady playoff losses, Pats D averaged 23
In the losses, I agree. I shouldn't have phrased it that way. He has 2 (maybe 3) losses that are pretty equal to Brady's Super Bowl loss this last week.

But, he has also lost 3 out of the 10 games where the defense played well enough for a guy like Aaron Rodgers to win (2013 against San Fran, 2014 against Seattle, and 2015 against Arizona). Brady has lost 3 out of the 22 games like that (both Super Bowls to the Giants, and 2015 against the Broncos). 3/10 for Rodgers, 3/22 for Brady.

In addition, he has really won them only 2 games where the defense didn't play that well. Super Bowl 45 and 2016 against the Cowboys. Brady? Super Bowl 38, 2004 AFC Championship, 2012 against Houston, 2014 against Baltimore, Super Bowl 51.
 

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To make matters worse, Tom is home in NYC this week for fashion week


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In the losses, I agree. I shouldn't have phrased it that way. He has 2 (maybe 3) losses that are pretty equal to Brady's Super Bowl loss this last week.

But, he has also lost 3 out of the 10 games where the defense played well enough for a guy like Aaron Rodgers to win (2013 against San Fran, 2014 against Seattle, and 2015 against Arizona). Brady has lost 3 out of the 22 games like that (both Super Bowls to the Giants, and 2015 against the Broncos). 3/10 for Rodgers, 3/22 for Brady.

In addition, he has really won them only 2 games where the defense didn't play that well. Super Bowl 45 and 2016 against the Cowboys. Brady? Super Bowl 38, 2004 AFC Championship, 2012 against Houston, 2014 against Baltimore, Super Bowl 51.


To be fair, Jeff Janis was his #1 WR at Zona in 2015

I think that's worth noting
 

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In the losses, I agree. I shouldn't have phrased it that way. He has 2 (maybe 3) losses that are pretty equal to Brady's Super Bowl loss this last week.

But, he has also lost 3 out of the 10 games where the defense played well enough for a guy like Aaron Rodgers to win (2013 against San Fran, 2014 against Seattle, and 2015 against Arizona). Brady has lost 3 out of the 22 games like that (both Super Bowls to the Giants, and 2015 against the Broncos). 3/10 for Rodgers, 3/22 for Brady.

In addition, he has really won them only 2 games where the defense didn't play that well. Super Bowl 45 and 2016 against the Cowboys. Brady? Super Bowl 38, 2004 AFC Championship, 2012 against Houston, 2014 against Baltimore, Super Bowl 51.


And your missing the Jets loss to Rex
 

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To be fair, Jeff Janis was his #1 WR at Zona in 2015

I think that's worth noting
I don't expect them to put up 28-35 points with Jeff Janis. But they had 13 points before that Hail Mary. You can put an asterisk next to that if you want, they should have scored more points in that game.
 

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less wins


Careful. If we're going to start talking about "wins" as QB stats, I don't think you're going to like what the stats show about Brady.
 

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Careful. If we're going to start talking about "wins" as QB stats, I don't think you're going to like what the stats show about Brady.


One more loss in the big one, he joins Tarketon and kelly as the biggest big game losers in history!

Another record for Tom!
 

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Its completely subjective, so its hard to have this discussion, defense gave up 21 points, Brady threw a pick 6, so..
Well that didn't happen. Brady's only pick 6 in the playoffs was in the Super Bowl.
 

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Foles:
higher QBR (I mean they're both arbitrary)
better comp %
more total TDs
less game ending fumbles
most importantly: 7 minute Super Bowl winning drive compared to 2 separate chances that both came up empty with the game on the line.
 
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