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[Draft Crazy]

Wasn't it Fowler that returned that punt that was bouncing around almost for a Td ?

Fowler has one recovered blocked punt in his career. That is not a punt return by stat. It is a blocked punt recovery. So no.

 

[CEH]

Demarcus Walker is working at 3 different positions. His athleticism is off the chart. Looking forward to seeing him in action. Shades of Karl Meckenleberg

 

[cdumler7]

Demarcus Walker is working at 3 different positions. His athleticism is off the chart. Looking forward to seeing him in action. Shades of Karl Meckenleberg

Only thing is at OLB he is getting blown up by Bolles. Rookie on rookie crime right now. On a few run plays yesterday he put Walker on his back. One play lifted him off the ground then slammed him to the turf. That was one of Walker's biggest issues in college is that he struggles to anchor. He can shoot the gap and win with 1st step quickness and having strong hands to throw a defender early on in a play. If they get planted on him though he just doesn't have the ability to counter and hold up.

 

[58crash]

Only thing is at OLB he is getting blown up by Bolles. Rookie on rookie crime right now. On a few run plays yesterday he put Walker on his back. One play lifted him off the ground then slammed him to the turf. That was one of Walker's biggest issues in college is that he struggles to anchor. He can shoot the gap and win with 1st step quickness and having strong hands to throw a defender early on in a play. If they get planted on him though he just doesn't have the ability to counter and hold up.

280 and he gets blown up


that is sad

 

[randymon]

Fowler has one recovered blocked punt in his career. That is not a punt return by stat. It is a blocked punt recovery. So no.

Just funnin. Fowler doesn't even come close to body type, quickness or vision you need as a return guy. If he does win Wr 3 role, I sure hope he has improved significantly in the consistency,focus and hands department. Sanders seems to like what he's seen so far from the youngster this camp, so maybe we do get our wr 3 this year. Carlos has also gotten some better critique from coach since his conditioning has improved.

 

[Mingo]

Only thing is at OLB he is getting blown up by Bolles. Rookie on rookie crime right now. On a few run plays yesterday he put Walker on his back. One play lifted him off the ground then slammed him to the turf. That was one of Walker's biggest issues in college is that he struggles to anchor. He can shoot the gap and win with 1st step quickness and having strong hands to throw a defender early on in a play. If they get planted on him though he just doesn't have the ability to counter and hold up.

From what I have read - Walker will rotate in for obvious passing downs - it is not like the Broncos haven't seen the liability in the run game (I hope that is a long term project).

 

[randymon]

From what I have read - Walker will rotate in for obvious passing downs - it is not like the Broncos haven't seen the liability in the run game (I hope that is a long term project).

V.Miller was quoted as telling Walker he has the potential to play all along line of scrimmage. Pretty sure he was talking passing situations/pass rush , not run defense. Obviously not his forte. At 280 lbs, he better win the quickness/ moves battle vs the 300 + lineman or Bolles,everyone and his brother is going to pancake him. He ain't no bull rusher. Could be, down road, his only option is to gain weight, get push inside and improve run D and give up edge rusher label to survive in league. Maybe. Definitely rootin for him either way.

 

[cdumler7]

280 and he gets blown up


that is sad

He's made plenty of other plays in practice. So not saying he is a bust by any means. He just struggles anchoring.

 

[cdumler7]

V.Miller was quoted as telling Walker he has the potential to play all along line of scrimmage. Pretty sure he was talking passing situations/pass rush , not run defense. Obviously not his forte. At 280 lbs, he better win the quickness/ moves battle vs the 300 + lineman or Bolles,everyone and his brother is going to pancake him. He ain't no bull rusher. Could be, down road, his only option is to gain weight, get push inside and improve run D and give up edge rusher label to survive in league. Maybe. Definitely rootin for him either way.

I'm not sure he can gain much weight. He is only 6'2" and the way he won in college had a lot to do with first step quickness. Gain too much more and he could lose his biggest asset. This is why people trying to compare him to Malik Jackson doesn't quite line up. Jackson yes was able to put on some weight and learn how to have a great overall game. Malik is also 6'6" and had a frame to add extra weight and not lose his explosive ability.

 

[Mingo]

Stock up - McGovern at OG

 

[CEH]

Carlos Henderson stock up vs his early stock down. Should shine in the games.

 

[Mingo]

Carlos Henderson stock up vs his early stock down. Should shine in the games.

Sizzle -I can hear it.

 

[cdumler7]

Carlos Henderson stock up vs his early stock down. Should shine in the games.

I think his biggest hurdle right now is learning the playbook. He is making plays for sure but he is also running wrong routes. Team has given him a lot of chances to prove himself and coaches are getting after him for just not knowing what to do.

 

[Mingo]

Henderson will be fine. Carlos has a shorter route to run than Brandon Marshall - across the line of scrimmage did in getting to where the game slows down again.

 

[Mingo]

Stock up - Lorenzo Doss

 

[randymon]

I'm not sure he can gain much weight. He is only 6'2" and the way he won in college had a lot to do with first step quickness. Gain too much more and he could lose his biggest asset. This is why people trying to compare him to Malik Jackson doesn't quite line up. Jackson yes was able to put on some weight and learn how to have a great overall game. Malik is also 6'6" and had a frame to add extra weight and not lose his explosive ability.

Isn't Aaron Donold only 6 feet ?

 

[cdumler7]

Isn't Aaron Donold only 6 feet ?

Very different style of players though. And Donald is still at that 285 lbs range that he entered the league. He has more power though and overall speed to his game. Very few players can get to that level of athleticism. Now maybe Walker can but you go watch his college tape compared to that of Donald and it is night and day between the 2 of who is the dominant force.

 

[randymon]

Very different style of players though. And Donald is still at that 285 lbs range that he entered the league. He has more power though and overall speed to his game. Very few players can get to that level of athleticism. Now maybe Walker can but you go watch his college tape compared to that of Donald and it is night and day between the 2 of who is the dominant force.

Donald is a freak thus the wink but I'm sure there's a long list of D linemen who entered league 6'2 or shorter,weighed less than 300 lbs, gained weight switched positions and became all pros

 

[Mingo]

Stock up - Barbre - J. Carter - McGovern (even more up) - Lynch - K. Raymond (how does he make the roster and how does he not?).

Stock down: More Max Garcia (for me Grand Canyon type disappointment) - Jordon Taylor (mentions compared to last year) - Ty Sam

 

[CEH]

Taylor doesn't really have a spot
He's a one route WR