State of the Thunder

[thunderc]

Westbrook has to be Westbrook and thst showed against the Warriors. I have never been a Donovan fan and in my opinion it’s time for him to go.

 

[Gman]

Honestly, who really does?

Heh... fair point.

Bear Bryant?

 

[bksballer89]

Also their shots are pretty even. Someone need to take a back seat IMO. You can't have all 3 avg just about the same amount of shots. In Miami, Bosh took the back seat and only got between 12-14 shots per game. In Cleveland, Love took a back seat.

Melo and George are both avg 17 shots. West avg 19 shots. Melo shots per game should probably be closer to 13 or 14 IMO

 

[bksballer89]

Westbrook has to be Westbrook and thst showed against the Warriors. I have never been a Donovan fan and in my opinion it’s time for him to go.

Agree with this. Russ needs to be himself. Melo need to take a backseat

 

[DJ]

OKC can't be successful that way.

They could be but unfortunately, RW can't change.

 

[DJ]

RW should take 13-15 FGA's and let Melo and PG get 18-19.

That doesn't mean RW has to take a backseat because in the 4th quarter, he'd be the go to guy in a close game.

RW does other things other than scoring.....Melo not so much.

 

[bksballer89]

They could be but unfortunately, RW can't change.

Asking someone to change their entire style of play in his 10th year in the league isn't smart. Russ is who he is. He's not going to turn into some pass first PG in year 10. They would be even a bigger failure if they went that route.

They actually need Russ to be himself in order to be successful as we saw Wed vs the Warriors. He's too worried about George and Melo feelings at the moment.

 

[tlance]

Also their shots are pretty even. Someone need to take a back seat IMO. You can't have all 3 avg just about the same amount of shots. In Miami, Bosh took the back seat and only got between 12-14 shots per game. In Cleveland, Love took a back seat.

Melo and George are both avg 17 shots. West avg 19 shots. Melo shots per game should probably be closer to 13 or 14 IMO

I agree with the first part, but I think Russ should be the one with the fewest shots and be like a super Jason Kidd. The problem isn't that Melo is along a lot of shots, it is that many of them are coming off ISOs where he is creating his own offense.

I say let Russ create everything, but he needs to aggressively create scoring chances for the other 2, especially Melo who really shouldn't be creating for himself on that team.

 

[DJ]

Asking someone to change their entire style of play in his 10th year in the league isn't smart. Russ is who he is. He's not going to turn into some pass first PG in year 10. They would be even a bigger failure if they went that route.

They actually need Russ to be himself in order to be successful as we saw Wed vs the Warriors. He's too worried about George and Melo feelings at the moment.

And as they showed vs the Mavs?

 

[DJ]

Asking someone to change their entire style of play in his 10th year in the league isn't smart. Russ is who he is. He's not going to turn into some pass first PG in year 10. They would be even a bigger failure if they went that route.

They actually need Russ to be himself in order to be successful as we saw Wed vs the Warriors. He's too worried about George and Melo feelings at the moment.

He was the man last year......how'd that turn out?

 

[DJ]

I agree with the first part, but I think Russ should be the one with the fewest shots and be like a super Jason Kidd. The problem isn't that Melo is along a lot of shots, it is that many of them are coming off ISOs where he is creating his own offense.

I say let Russ create everything, but he needs to aggressively create scoring chances for the other 2, especially Melo who really shouldn't be creating for himself on that team.

I agree with this.

 

[tlance]

I agree with the first part, but I think Russ should be the one with the fewest shots and be like a super Jason Kidd. The problem isn't that Melo is along a lot of shots, it is that many of them are coming off ISOs where he is creating his own offense.

I say let Russ create everything, but he needs to aggressively create scoring chances for the other 2, especially Melo who really shouldn't be creating for himself on that team.

Let me qualify this a bit.

Russ should be relentless in trying to score in transition where he is best. It is half court where he needs to facilitate more.

 

[bksballer89]

RW should take 13-15 FGA's and let Melo and PG get 18-19.

That doesn't mean RW has to take a backseat because in the 4th quarter, he'd be the go to guy in a close game.

RW does other things other than scoring.....Melo not so much.

No way in hell should Melo be getting 18 or 19 shots at this point of his career. He isn't that good anymore. He is a 3rd option. There is a reason why the Knicks looked like shit with him as option #1 attempting 18-19 shots per game.

 

[DJ]

No way in hell should Melo be getting 18 or 19 shots at this point of his career. He isn't that good anymore. He is a 3rd option. There is a reason why the Knicks looked like shit with him as option #1 attempting 18-19 shots per game.

Isn't that good anymore?

He's more efficient on offense than RW whose shooting numbers resemble AI.

 

[DJ]

No way in hell should Melo be getting 18 or 19 shots at this point of his career. He isn't that good anymore. He is a 3rd option. There is a reason why the Knicks looked like shit with him as option #1 attempting 18-19 shots per game.

The Knicks had a PG like RW?

 

[bksballer89]

And as they showed vs the Mavs?

It is an 82 game season. Every team will have a stinker or 2 against a bad team.

 

[DJ]

It is an 82 game season. Every team will have a stinker or 2 against a bad team.

OKC is under .500 and this isn't the first or second stinker they've had.

 

[bksballer89]

He was the man last year......how'd that turn out?

Just fine. He took an absolutely shit team to the playoffs in the West as the 6th seed. That team lose 60+ games without Russ.

 

[tlance]

They'll never take a 2nd round pick for pg13. You're on drugs.

Someone who think they can win it all this season with George will risk it all would give OKC a much better deal than anything the lakers can offer them

I think the Lakers could have a package that would interest OKC, but it would be something like:

Randle, Kuzma and KCP (expiring contract)

Kuzma would be the asset with the team friendly deal and Randle is the wild card with a bit of upside. Neither KCP nor Randle really have much value though. KCP's value is mostly as an expiring contract who can play a bit. Without Kuzma or Ingram in the deal, OKC doesn't even consider.

Even then, we are far from the point where OKC thinks about dealing George.

 

[DJ]

We have a RW fan-boy.