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Should the NBA go to a hard salary cap (ala the NFL)?

Should the NBA go to a hard salary cap?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 63.6%
  • No

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Doesn't matter

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • Total voters
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michaeljordan_fan

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Would this help eliminate the "super-teams" and increase parity in the league?
 

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I don't care much for parity because this league always been one when you usually would have 4-5 teams that can actually win a title yearly but the super teams need to go. The fact that most of us knew on July 4th, 2016 who would be playing in the NBA finals is not a good look IMO. And likely we'll all know the teams participating in the 2018 finals by July 4th of this year.
 

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Absolutely it should.
The only way to have an fairly competitive league is a hard cap.
 

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I don't care much for parity because this league always been one when you usually would have 4-5 teams that can actually win a title yearly but the super teams need to go. The fact that most of us knew on July 4th, 2016 who would be playing in the NBA finals is not a good look IMO. And likely we'll all know the teams participating in the 2018 finals by July 4th of this year.

I don't think the league can stop free agents from signing where they please.
They might tinker with free agent qualifications but that's about it.
 

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I think the luxury repeater tax has gone a long way toward that anyway. It used to be certain teams just paid the luxury tax year after year. Not anymore
 

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The league has always had dominant teams. The very nature of basketball makes that inevitable.

A hard cap wouldn't make Sacramento a more more desirable place to play.
 

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Anything to end super teams and a have a COMPETITIVE NBA (unlike the one we see now) I'm in favor. It would certainly be a good start.

I dont just categorize a super teams when superstars join forces. Its when they join forces and 98 percent of the rest of the league SUCKS, thats a superteam
 

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The league has always had dominant teams. The very nature of basketball makes that inevitable.

A hard cap wouldn't make Sacramento a more more desirable place to play.

Free agency itself has made sustaining a dominant team harder. So players choosing where they can sign earlier in their careers than in the past isn't all bad.
You'd think The Knicks would have an advantage over most destinations, it hasn't worked the way expected since The last Lakers title run.
 

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Theres always been a few dominant teams but there were also a host of a very good teams or other great teams in the league which provided a competitive NBA especially in the playoffs . Big difference from today. 2 dominant teams and NO competition
 

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Someone more in the know may have to appraise me of this but to what degree has the seemingly rapid cap increase affected the "competitive balance" or whatever you want to term it?
 

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Theres always been a few dominant teams but there were also a host of a very good teams or other great teams in the league which provided a competitive NBA especially in the playoffs . Big difference from today. 2 dominant teams and NO competition

I don't think it's anything permanent, it just so happens we have 2 great teams at the same time.
San Antonio might have given G.S. a run if not for key injuries.
 

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Theres always been a few dominant teams but there were also a host of a very good teams or other great teams in the league which provided a competitive NBA especially in the playoffs . Big difference from today. 2 dominant teams and NO competition

I think that both the Cavs and the Warriors are outliers. Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time playing the best basketball of his career. In truth he is very similar to how MJ was in the 90s, as far as dominance. The Warriors assembled a remarkable cast that they won't be able to keep for more than another year or so.
 

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The Warriors are major outliers here for two reasons:

1) The core of the team (Steph, Klay and Draymond) were all drafted to the team. Teams are always able to pay more to their own players to retain them. This helped in conjunction with the cap rising because they were able to extend Klay and Draymond to near max deals without it compromising cap flexibility.

2) Steph Curry's current contract. He was injured and recovering when he signed a 4 year 44M extension. He's been making 11m annually for 2 MVP seasons in his prime. That's crazy. If he had maxed out like some others in his draft class, the Warriors wouldn't have been able to sign Iguodala, Livingston, Speights, etc. They'd also likely to go large over the luxury tax to try to retain Klay and Draymond when their contracts were up and they definitely would not have been able to sign KD this past off-season.
 

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Only if it helps the Clippers get out of the first round.
 

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The current system probably will discourage new super teams from forming, since teams will have a big advantage financially when it comes to resigning their own players.

The problem is, however, that GS and Cleveland already have dominant teams together. They should be able to keep their cores together while everyone else will have a near impossible time building a team good enough to compete.

In the long term, it might work if the current CBA is given a chance. Short term, however, the results will likely be worse than ever. I bet the current version gets scrapped as a result before we really can see the long term impact.
 

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Yes, not for the super team reason, but because its simpler. Parity shouldn't be the goal in the NBA however. What they should do is have rules in place to allow teams to build quicker.* Ease of player movement should be the goal. The way the CBA is structured, team building is an arduous process They should also eliminate dollar for dollar salary cap trades. This would free up a lot of restriction and allow teams to compete more quickly. For example, a disgruntled star could go to a team that's a piece away a lot easier in a simple star for young assets dump. But the way it is now, you gotta get the cap figures within a certain percentage for the deal to work. So that contending team usually has to gut their team (like what happened in the Melo trade). It's really hard to prevent super teams since guys can decide to play together, but doing this gives other teams chances to compete if they feel they are close. Like how many more would be contenders would have taken a shot at Jimmy Butler or Paul George under this circumstance? Instead, we've got teams pretty much planning to wait for GS and Cleveland to slow down.


*This won't happen because the owners don't give a fuck about contending. What they care most about is controlling one asset down for a decade and selling "hope" because its the easiest way they all make money. It's why when you're drafted, you're essentially stuck on that team for 8 years. And its why they've instituted new contract details that offer huge sums of cash to stay put.
 

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The whole point of the soft cap is to give home teams flexibility to keep home grown talent.

A hard cap would likely hinder dominant teams as they would be limited on the number of top contracts they could pay out. However it would likely make guys like Lebron even more dominant because other teams wouldn't be able to build a full team of all stars. Thus the "In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king" rule would apply. Lebron's team would not be as effective but his team would dominate more because other teams would be weaker.
 

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The whole point of the soft cap is to give home teams flexibility to keep home grown talent.

A hard cap would likely hinder dominant teams as they would be limited on the number of top contracts they could pay out. However it would likely make guys like Lebron even more dominant because other teams wouldn't be able to build a full team of all stars. Thus the "In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king" rule would apply. Lebron's team would not be as effective but his team would dominate more because other teams would be weaker.

In other words, the league would like a lot like it did in the 90s. I agree.
 
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