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well if he clears waivers we better put him on the PC
 

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catalina was like 4th from the bottom in OG blocking ratings so not a huge loss. however before you can go to the PS (much like mack ) you have to be waived

at this point kujo was the better og

I agree, his play was not outstanding and really wasn't even average. Now he may have some ability to develop but I think some people forget how pressed we are for players who can play in the game. Last week we only had about 42 guys who could play because we are carrying so many injured players. Sometimes moves are made out of necessity instead of desire.
 

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What a great story.
 

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monday presser

November 13, 2017


Head Coach Jay Gruden


On injuries:

“Will Compton has a Lisfranc sprain. Rob Kelley has an MCL sprain and aggravated his high ankle. Ryan Grant is in the concussion protocol. D-Hall [DeAngelo Hall] had a knee bone bruise and [Anthony] Lanier has a knee – MCL – sprain. Updates: Matt Ioannidis, hand, he’ll be day to day; [Niles] Paul is going to progress in the protocol, concussion; same with [Brian] Quick; and Jordan Reed will be day-to-day.”



On the prognosis for RB Rob Kelley and LB Will Compton:

“It’s going to be a few weeks. We just have to figure out how many and if they’re IR candidates or not. That’s what we’ll have to determine here in the next couple days.”



On if he’ll look for another running back:

“We’ll have to go get one, for sure. Whether we claim one on a practice squad or pick up a free agent, have some workouts, we’ll have to get another one in here quickly.”



On if Kelley or Compton are IR candidates:

“Possibility, yeah. I think it depends on how much time – three, four, five weeks, six weeks. We’ll have to wait and see, gather that information, see how many roster spots we have for other guys to fill voids. Obviously, we have to sign a running back, we need a spot there. Probably have to sign a linebacker, we need a spot there. Maybe a safety, need a spot there.”



On inconsistency:

“Well, I think there’s another 46 guys on the other side of the field that have a lot to do with that, too, and another coached football team. Each week we’re playing very good football teams, as we all know. And I’m not saying we’re not consistently playing well, I just think that we’ve run into some really good offenses, guys making some plays on the other side. We’re not matching, play-for-play, with the other team. Their offense has a good play, so it’s considered a bad play for our defense. Our offense might have a good play, vice versa. So, we just have to overcome the adversity, and we didn’t do that yesterday.”



On if the team suffers from "big heads" following wins:

“Maybe that’s the case. If they feel that way, then I’ve got to do a better job of making sure they don’t get a big head. It has been difficult to practice on Fridays, Thursdays, with the amount of injuries we’ve had and guys not being able to practice. We can’t go very long, so we count on a lot of our walkthroughs and mental preparation to really take care of some of the plays that we miss. For the most part, players have to get ready to play. And I have to do a better job of getting them ready to play, and if they’re not ready, then that’s on me.”



On the timeline of WR Ryan Grant’s concussion:

“Yeah, he went in and was evaluated for the concussion. And then, initially, the reports were he was cleared to go back in, but our training staff continued to monitor him and they decided not to put him back in.”



On if the NFL spotter was involved:

“Not that I know of, no. Our training staff took care of that. They went in there, and initially I think Ryan felt OK and passed all the tests. Then he had some more symptoms I think [Head Athletic Trainer] Larry [Hess] noticed it. So, it was good, they caught it and kept him out. He didn’t go back in the game.”



On clarifying that Grant did not play after being cleared initially:

“No, he did not.”



On what WR Maurice Harris can do in Grant’s absence:

“Yeah, I think Maurice can do a lot. I think Maurice’s value is he plays all three spots and he knows them very well. He’s an excellent blocker in the run game. Like I said, we can put him inside, outside, X, Z, whatever. He knows them like the back of his hand, so it’s great to have that comfort level with a receiver. Sometimes when guys flip positions, they line up wrong and we have to waste a timeout or what have you, so it’s good to have a guy like that. And the quarterbacks feel really good throwing to him because he’s always where he’s supposed to be.”


On how Harris has been able to pick up all three spots in a short period of time:

“I don’t know. He’s been here. He’s just a very smart guy. I don’t know. Some guys just pick it up quicker than others, and not to say that the other guys aren’t smart, it’s just that he’s just been moved around and bounced around. He’s had to fill in for Jamison [Crowder], he’s had to fill in for Ryan and he’s had to fill in for our X’s, so he’s been able to grasp all three. Some guys are just left in one position by design, so it’s nothing against them, it’s just good for him.”



On if a comfort level contributes to players’ ability to do that:

“Sometimes, comfort level. Sometimes we want a guy that’s on the ball. Sometimes we want a guy… Like Pierre [Garçon] always wanted to be on the ball so he was our X and so on and so forth.”



On if it is important for a new running back to be familiar with a similar system:

“It’s semi-important, but really we’re looking for the best available talented guy and our guys have been on top of the practice squads all year. [They] brought some names to our attention, myself and Randy [Jordan], and we’ll watch the film and come up with a player that we want to get. It’s not like we can just say, ‘Hey, come with us.’ They’ve still got to come. They could stay at their teams. So, we have four or five options right now we’re looking at and ranked them in order and we’ll try to get the first one and if we can’t get the him, we’ll get the second one. So on and so forth.”



On Harris both returning and blocking on the front line on kickoffs Sunday and how many players have that kind of versatility:

“Not many. That’s why he’s a valuable guy. He’s valuable because he can do a lot on [special] teams and like I said, he can do a lot at the receiver position. He’s not a flashy guy. He’s probably not a guy that’s going to wow you with his speed, but he’ll get the job done. He’ll make one-handed catches like he did yesterday and he’ll make key blocks like he did a few times also.”



On RB Samaje Perine’s performance:

“I think there are some runs that he hit the hole pretty good on. We’d still like to see some more better contact balance I guess, maybe run through a tackle here and there, but I think he hit his tracks the right way and made a couple good runs.”



On if he is surprised Perine hasn’t had more yards after contact:

“Probably a little bit, but I think we’ve got to get him more carries. I think with Rob’s injury now, we’ll see a lot more Samaje down the stretch here and I think he’s probably… By looking at him at Oklahoma and what we’ve seen from the little bit of him here, [he’s] probably better as the game goes on. I think he’s the type of guy that can wear down a defense and then his low center of gravity will take over and he’ll be able to bounce off some tackles.”



On what he wants to see out of Perine:

“I just want to see more production. That’s all, and he’s got to get the opportunity. We’ve got to see, like I said, if we have a guy unblocked in the hole, it’s run him over or make him miss, something, or make sure we continue to get positive yards and keep the chains in favorable down and distance and avoid the negative plays. He’s going to get better and better the more reps he gets and the more carries. So we will get a great look at him.”



On how he felt about the offensive performance against the Vikings:

“Yeah, that’s a tough one. There were some plays out there that were really good, really impressive for our offense against a very good defense, like you say. And there were some plays that we’d like to think we can make, unfortunately, and didn’t make them. Just got to get back to the drawing board here [at] 4-5 and try to make sure we continue to compliment on the good they’re doing, coach them on the things we need to do better and go from there. But there were some great plays to be had in that game, some we made and some we unfortunately didn’t make.”



On if he asked WR Josh Doctson why he stumbled in the end zone:

“I think he just stumbled coming out of his break. You know, he sold the block. He did a great job – was really patient and then he came out of it and I think he just got a turf monster, unfortunately. Couple guys wide open on that play.”



On if he was aware of a report alleging that the Browns tried to trade for WR Terrelle Pryor Sr.:

“I was not aware of that. That would probably go upstairs. That would probably be a Doug Williams question, but that never came to my attention.”



On the interior pass rush without DL Jonathan Allen and DL Matt Ioannidis:

“It’s hard to replace a first rounder, quite frankly. We miss Jonathan quite a lot. Then Matt was doing some good things also, so that’s two key rotational-type defensive linemen. Now we are asking more of Ziggy Hood, Stacy McGee and obviously Terrell McClain. They’ve got to step it up and Anthony Lanier and obviously [Brandon] Banks yesterday. We do need more production probably from the four and five position there and something needs to be addressed, but Ziggy, Stacy and Terrell, they are playing hard. They are just playing a lot of minutes so we have got to do a better job of that rotation and keeping all of them fresh like we did early in the year.”



On the interior pass rush Sunday:

“It wasn’t great, you know? We don’t really rely a whole lot on our interior pass rush. We’d love to get it in there, but we rely on them to get push in the pocket and letting our outside guys to get home, which really didn’t happen either. I think the combination of a lot of things yesterday just really wasn’t good enough. I think pass rush obviously, the coverage wasn’t good enough so hence the 400-plus-yard performance by the Vikings and 38 points.”



On if QB Kirk Cousins should have put more air on an overthrown pass to Doctson:

“There are different types of balls you can throw to him obviously. Sometimes that is an option, but, you know, if you’re trying to hold a safety, you can’t just throw it high. The safety can react and make a play on it also. So you want to try and beat the safety. Sometimes trajectory has to alter depending on where the safety is – or corner for that matter. He just overthrew him by a couple yards. It was a great idea. Josh ran a great route. We just missed on that one.”

 

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roster moves

For Immediate Release

November 13, 2017



REDSKINS MAKE ROSTER MOVE



LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – The Washington Redskins announced today that they have made the following roster move:


The Redskins signed the following player to their practice squad:

LB Otha Peters

For Immediate Release

November 14, 2017



REDSKINS MAKE ROSTER MOVES



LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – The Washington Redskins announced today that they have made the following roster moves:


The Redskins signed the following free agent:

DL Caraun Reid


The Redskins signed the following player to their active roster from Philadelphia’s practice squad:

RB Byron Marshall


The Redskins placed the following players on their Reserve/Injured list:

LB Will Compton

RB Rob Kelley


The Redskins waived the following player:

DL Brandon Banks


The Redskins released the following player from their practice squad:

DL Tavaris Barnes


For Immediate Release

November 15, 2017



REDSKINS MAKE ROSTER MOVES



LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – The Washington Redskins announced today that they have made the following roster moves:


The Redskins signed the following free agent:

LB Zach Vigil


The Redskins signed the following players to their practice squad:

RB LeShun Daniels

S Orion Stewart
 

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November 15, 2017


Head Coach Jay Gruden


On practice participation:

“Did not participate was: non-injury for Crowder, personal reasons; and then Jordan Reed, hamstring; and Trent Williams, knee. I have a bunch of limiteds. You’ll get the report here in a minute. If you have any questions about anybody, I’ll let you know how they’re doing. [Ryan] Grant is still in the concussion protocol, [Zach] Brown with his Achilles, so on, so forth.”



On if he expects WR Jamison Crowder to return tomorrow:

“Yeah, he’ll be back.”



On TE Jordan Reed’s progress:

“He’s progressing. He was with the trainers today for the most part. Said he had a good day, we’ll see how he does tomorrow.”



On T Trent Williams’ status:

“Yeah, it’s going to be a week-to-week thing for him, for sure. The challenge will be Sunday, Thursday, Thursday. The next three weeks will be a challenge. Hopefully we’ll get him this week, then take it week by week.”



On planning practices for three games in a short span, especially for a team with so many injuries:

“Yeah, we’re OK right now. We have guys on a limited basis but we have enough bodies [that] we’re having good practices. And then after this game, we’ll adjust the schedule – probably shorten practice, maybe a walkthrough-type tempo and go from there, get ready for the Thursday night game.”



On RB Samaje Perine’s improvements:

“Well, I think he’s getting better looks. The more you see in practice and the more you get in a game, the better you’re going to get. He’s a guy that never ran out of the I-formation in college, so this is all new to him. He’s good out of the shotgun, but we’ve just got to keep giving him the ball. Like I said the other day, I think he’s a guy that’ll get better with more carries. He’s such a physical guy that I think the more carries he gets, he’ll wear down a defense. He’s not so much a spell guy, he’s more of a ‘run it, run it, run it,’ type guy. Hopefully we get him some reps, get a great look at him, and he performs well, which we think he will.”



On Perine’s ball security:

“He’s had two missed hand-offs. I think the exchanges are the issue, the tracks. Not necessarily all his fault, sometimes the quarterback might’ve been a little bit too tight. But we’ve got to get that cleaned up. Time will tell on that but I think we’ve got it fixed, hopefully.”



On if there are benefits in facing a difficult early schedule:

“Well, I don’t know. We’ll see. I think every team in the NFL has serious weapons and things to… you have to prepare for, work toward. Just when you think you’re not playing somebody that’s not very good record-wise, they have a lot of talent and good coaches. This is a week-to-week league, for sure. We know we’re playing against a team that’s won seven in a row, and they’re playing excellent football on both sides of the ball and special teams. But as far as how that will treat us later in the season, we’ll have to wait and see.”



On the decision to sign RB Byron Marshall:

“Yeah, we did some work on him. Our scouts did a good job on him and sent the tape to [Running Backs Coach] Randy [Jordan] and made the decision that he was our top guy. He does a little bit of everything. He can catch the ball out of the backfield, he’s thick, he’s 215, 220 pounds. He played running back in college, played receiver in college, did some good things on tape in Philadelphia in the preseason, so that’s the guy we went with.”



On the difference in New Orleans’ offense:

“They’re balanced and I think they’re running the ball extremely well. They have two powerful guards in [Andrus] Peat and [Larry] Warford and [Max] Unger is doing a good job at center. And then the backs. They have a good combination with [Alvin] Kamara and [Mark] Ingram, obviously. They do a good job of mixing it up, and that opens up the play-action passes with [Ted] Ginn, taking the deep shots and [Michael] Thomas across the middle, and obviously [Coby] Fleener. So they have some great weapons across the board. Kamara is another great threat out of the backfield. They do jet sweeps, screens, all that stuff. Very balanced football team. They’re playing with a lead this year a lot more as opposed to last year and the year before. They were playing from behind because their defense wasn’t very good, so they were very pass-happy. You see the same situation with us from time to time. But when they play with the lead or close, they’re very balanced and Sean Payton does a great job of calling plays.”



On DL Matt Ioannidis’s hand:

“He had a nice club on today at practice. Limited basis but he looked good. Hopefully uses that to his advantage… Be like ‘The Longest Yard’ [laughing].”



On if Ioannidis could be available Sunday:

“Yeah, we hope so. We’ll see. He’s trying it out, felt pretty good today. We think he’s got a chance.”



On New Orleans’s defensive success this year:

“They’re doing a good job in the running game and they’re getting you in third down and they’re very good on third down. Third-and-short, they’re excellent. Third down, they’re doing good. They’re very multiple in what they do. They jam fronts, double-As, and a lot of different fronts that you have to deal with. And then they’re playing great man coverage. [Ken] Crawley, I don’t know how to pronounce it, him and the first-rounder over there, they’re very good. They’re very good corners and they’re getting good secondary play along with the pass rush.”



On differences in LB Martrell Spaight’s performance last week:

“He just came in, he was fresh-legged, had a lot of energy. That’s Spaight’s strength is he comes in and provides spark with great energy, plays fast and he’s a physical guy. Now it’s a matter of him and Zach [Brown] meshing well together from here on out because those are our two linebackers. And Josh Harvey-[Clemons] is now number three, we signed [Zach] Vigil to be number four. Vigil helps out on special teams quite a bit, but Spaight and Brown, they’ve got to lead the show, run the show.”



On what he remembers about QB Kirk Cousins’ performance the last time they played the Saints:

“I don’t remember anything about that game, quite honestly. I didn’t even watch that tape. I know he played well in that game. We had a great day. That was a great afternoon here at our home game and guys played well, but they’re a totally different team as we are, and they’ve improved greatly.”



On what he’s seeing from WR Maurice Harris now that eyes are on him:

“Yeah, he’s always been a great competitor in practice. In training camp, he was making plays. It just went unnoticed by a lot of people, but not by us. He’s a great all-around football player – very quarterback-friendly. He’s where he’s supposed to be. He just doesn’t there quite as fast as a lot of guys, but he’s got great change of direction. He knows how to set up the DB. He knows how to read zone/man. He can play everywhere. And he’s a great blocker, so he’s another great weapon for us to throw in the mix.”

 

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QB Kirk Cousins


On if he has a relationship with Saints QB Drew Brees:

“I just had an opportunity to get to know him at the Pro Bowl last year, which was a fun experience. I’ve just always admired his career going back to his days at Purdue – the way he has handled adversity, the way he’s carried himself with class, the consistent production year-in and year-out. He’s stayed healthy. He’s just been a consistent force there for the Saints. I love his game and the way he plays and I’ve been able to learn a lot from him, just from a distance, watching film and studying his game.”



On if he can model his career after what Brees has done in New Orleans:

“I think the goal is to just watch other guys and how they’ve had success and study their game. He plays with such a good base and he’s got great accuracy. He sees the field well, has good athleticism, moves around well, avoids sacks, completes a lot of passes. And so all of those things are things you say, ‘That’s a good recipe for success, a good model for success.’ I think in that sense, you do try to pattern your game after great players like that.”



On how he can simulate a live pocket:

“Good question. That’s the question I’ve asked myself a lot, because you can’t go to the local park and play 11-on-11 football, unfortunately, like you can if you’re an NBA player … you can go to the gym and play pick-up basketball and still get a decent feel of the flow of going up and down the court and playing the game. Not the case in football, and so your best chance away from practice is to have a coach throw a bag at your feet and get as close as you can, which still isn’t very close. That’s why practice is so valuable. That’s why two-a-days are valuable. That’s why OTAs are so valuable. You try to get a feel for it – and why game experience is so valuable and why as players play more in real-time games, they play better and better and better, because it’s hard to simulate that in other situations.”


On if he sees his throw to WR Josh Doctson any different after watching it on tape:

“I saw it correctly on the field in the moment, but what I did was, I was nervous about the safety being able to redirect – I call it a baseball turn – and go back and intercept it and he really wasn’t able to when you watched the film. That’s maybe a situation where I’m being overly cautious trying to prevent the critical error by throwing the ball deep enough to where I know the safety can’t make a play, but our receiver also can’t make a play. Had I left the ball shorter where I would have wanted to throw it, the safety wasn’t going to be there and you’d like to think it could have been a touchdown. And on the field, I didn’t throw it there because I was nervous about the safety getting over there, so that’s where you go back and watch the film and realize, ‘I’m giving them too much credit,’ and you can put that ball in there and it would have been a potential six points.”



On the progression he’s seen from RB Samaje Perine:

“I think confidence is always going to be a big trait as you play longer in this league and he’s become a more confident player as he’s gone through different experiences. I think he’s always run the ball really hard and I think he does a great job with that – I told him so after the game against the Vikings. Catching the football, he’s going to get more and more opportunities to do that and gain more experience. He had a great play down the right sideline against the Vikings on Sunday. So just continue to give him those opportunities, those experiences, and I think the pass game is really the growth that a running back needs to take when he first shows up in the NFL because of how many pressures are being thrown at them and how much responsibility we place on a running back in pass protection, and those are the places where he can grow and will grow. He has all of the tools, all the hardware, to be able to do that and become a really complete back in this league.”



On if exchanges with Perine will improve now that he is getting first-team reps:

“I would think that that will get better as we work together longer, that he’ll get a better feel for how each exchange looks and I’ll get a better feel for what he needs. Those are certainly the kind of errors that can quickly change the course of a game and so they need to be avoided at all costs.”



On WR Maurice Harris and what it means to be a “QB-friendly receiver”:

“I think QB-friendly receivers are guys who make a quarterback more accurate by the way they track the football in the air. They attack the football with their hands. When they’re covered, they can still come down with the ball in a way that the stat line shows that it was as if he was wide open. I think I’ve always felt that Maurice is that, as well as another guy who stands out in that way uniquely is Jamison Crowder. I’ve always felt like Jamison at times makes me a more accurate quarterback with the way that he tracks the football in the air. Those are skills that have to be developed and take time and some guys have it a little more naturally than others, and I think Maurice and Jamison do have a unique trait there in the way they can be QB-friendly. But we have a lot of guys that, you know, you think of Josh Doctson and you think of our tight ends – Jordan Reed and Vernon Davis – we’ve got a lot of guys that can make a quarterback look pretty good.”



On if there is a benefit to having a tough early schedule:

“I think time will tell if that challenge that we’ve had the first nine weeks of the season, 10 weeks of the season, if that will benefit us in the second half. I don’t know, but we’ve stood toe-to-toe with a lot of good teams in this league. We said it before we ever played a game that the margin for error is very small and the difference between teams that go 10-6 and 6-10 is very little. We knew that going into the season and, unfortunately, in some of those tight games we’ve come out on top and some of them we haven’t. Hopefully here in this stretch of seven games, we can be the ones that come out on top.”



On the change in the Saints’ defense this year:

“Well, I think they’re well-coached. I think it’s a good scheme. I think they’re creating pressure. It seems like they’re getting after the quarterback, batting a lot of passes down at the line of scrimmage. It seems that their secondary is covering very well. They’re creating confusion. They’re changing up their looks and just kind of creating chaos and that’s what good defenses do. It is going to be a challenge, especially in their environment and their stadium, to be on the screws and make sure we’re all on the same page.”


On if he needs to change any part of his game when a team is adept at batting down passes:

“No, I don’t know that I change a whole lot. I think the things that you want to do to try to help with that are the things you do every week – negotiate arm angles, hold your eyes, don’t stare down where you’re throwing, have a quick release. I think those are all things that I do pretty well. I think I have a quick release. I think I can move my arm angle to make those throws and so I think those are the same things you try to do every week.”


 

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Good article from Keim...



The debate over Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins -- his every throw results in questions of his worth -- obscures one reality. And a problem. It's not whether Cousins is great or not; it's that the Redskins too often need him to be great in order win.

There have been exceptions since Cousins became the full-time starter in 2015. But too often, it holds true. If Cousins doesn't play well, the Redskins struggle.

If he throws an interception -- just one -- they usually lose. He's thrown a pick in five games this season; the Redskins have lost four of those. Carson Wentz has thrown a pick in five games; the Eagles have won four.

Quarterback is the most important position. Cousins' contract is always a focal point, so a lot of the debate centers around whether he's worth a certain amount. That's not going to change.

Jonathan Allen and Matt Ioannidis hasn't helped. The coaching staff is also solid. There's reason for optimism, but when will that turn into consistent results?

It hasn't helped that they've played seven of the NFL's top 11 scoring offenses -- and eight of the top 10 when it comes to yards per play. That's a brutal schedule. Look for second-half improvement as the schedule eases.

Still, if the Redskins want to be anything other than ordinary, those numbers must improve. That's true of these numbers too: The Redskins are 23rd in rushing yards per game and 25th in yards per carry.

Look at Sunday's opponent, the New Orleans Saints, for proof that just about any quarterback needs help to win. The Saints have a future Hall of Fame quarterback in Drew Brees, yet they finished 7-9 in four straight seasons before 2017. This year? They have a running game and a defense -- and Brees -- and they're 7-2. The difference, of course, is Brees has won a Super Bowl; no one wonders how far he can lead a team.

From 2013-15, Matt Ryan's Atlanta Falcons went a combined 18-30. He's clearly shown what he can do when he has more talent around him, but he wasn't enough in other years. Since 2010, the Chargers, led by Philip Rivers, own a 54-67 record.

You can use those stats to bolster your argument for and against Cousins. That's not the point. His value is what it is, and you can pay it or not. The point is: No matter who's at quarterback, the Redskins need to create a situation where they can win more if the quarterback doesn't play great. Yes, Cousins threw a costly pick against Minnesota -- so did Vikings quarterback Case Keenum.

Cousins has posted total QBRs of 77 or higher in three of the five losses (QBR measures the impact on a game much more than passer rating). The average QBR in a win by quarterbacks this season is 65.4. In two of Washington's wins, the Redskins showed what can happen when other facets work: A strong run game led the win in Los Angeles, and the defense spurred the win in Seattle. Cousins made plays when needed.

Since 2015, Cousins has thrown a combined 44 touchdown passes to six interceptions in the Redskins' 21 wins. In the 19 losses, it's 22 touchdowns to 21 interceptions. He's never thrown more than one pick in a win. They're 6-15 in games where he's thrown one interception. Compare that to Wilson: The Seahawks are 8-9 when he throws a pick.

So for those saying Cousins alone can't carry the Redskins, you're absolutely right. Most QBs can't.

That's not to say you spend whatever it takes to keep a guy if you don't love him. So if the Redskins don't love Cousins? Simple: Don't pay him in the $25-$30 million range. Find another solution and move forward. They exist.

Then you need the defense and run game to improve. Until that happens, the Redskins will find themselves needing great play from one position. That's too much to ask on a consistent basis. And that's not Cousins' fault.
 

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Good article from Keim...



The debate over Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins -- his every throw results in questions of his worth -- obscures one reality. And a problem. It's not whether Cousins is great or not; it's that the Redskins too often need him to be great in order win.

There have been exceptions since Cousins became the full-time starter in 2015. But too often, it holds true. If Cousins doesn't play well, the Redskins struggle.

If he throws an interception -- just one -- they usually lose. He's thrown a pick in five games this season; the Redskins have lost four of those. Carson Wentz has thrown a pick in five games; the Eagles have won four.

Quarterback is the most important position. Cousins' contract is always a focal point, so a lot of the debate centers around whether he's worth a certain amount. That's not going to change.

Jonathan Allen and Matt Ioannidis hasn't helped. The coaching staff is also solid. There's reason for optimism, but when will that turn into consistent results?

It hasn't helped that they've played seven of the NFL's top 11 scoring offenses -- and eight of the top 10 when it comes to yards per play. That's a brutal schedule. Look for second-half improvement as the schedule eases.

Still, if the Redskins want to be anything other than ordinary, those numbers must improve. That's true of these numbers too: The Redskins are 23rd in rushing yards per game and 25th in yards per carry.

Look at Sunday's opponent, the New Orleans Saints, for proof that just about any quarterback needs help to win. The Saints have a future Hall of Fame quarterback in Drew Brees, yet they finished 7-9 in four straight seasons before 2017. This year? They have a running game and a defense -- and Brees -- and they're 7-2. The difference, of course, is Brees has won a Super Bowl; no one wonders how far he can lead a team.

From 2013-15, Matt Ryan's Atlanta Falcons went a combined 18-30. He's clearly shown what he can do when he has more talent around him, but he wasn't enough in other years. Since 2010, the Chargers, led by Philip Rivers, own a 54-67 record.

You can use those stats to bolster your argument for and against Cousins. That's not the point. His value is what it is, and you can pay it or not. The point is: No matter who's at quarterback, the Redskins need to create a situation where they can win more if the quarterback doesn't play great. Yes, Cousins threw a costly pick against Minnesota -- so did Vikings quarterback Case Keenum.

Cousins has posted total QBRs of 77 or higher in three of the five losses (QBR measures the impact on a game much more than passer rating). The average QBR in a win by quarterbacks this season is 65.4. In two of Washington's wins, the Redskins showed what can happen when other facets work: A strong run game led the win in Los Angeles, and the defense spurred the win in Seattle. Cousins made plays when needed.

Since 2015, Cousins has thrown a combined 44 touchdown passes to six interceptions in the Redskins' 21 wins. In the 19 losses, it's 22 touchdowns to 21 interceptions. He's never thrown more than one pick in a win. They're 6-15 in games where he's thrown one interception. Compare that to Wilson: The Seahawks are 8-9 when he throws a pick.

So for those saying Cousins alone can't carry the Redskins, you're absolutely right. Most QBs can't.

That's not to say you spend whatever it takes to keep a guy if you don't love him. So if the Redskins don't love Cousins? Simple: Don't pay him in the $25-$30 million range. Find another solution and move forward. They exist.

Then you need the defense and run game to improve. Until that happens, the Redskins will find themselves needing great play from one position. That's too much to ask on a consistent basis. And that's not Cousins' fault.

See John Elway until Terrell Davis came along.

Keim makes some interesting points. Many of the Cousin's doubters say he can't carry the team. That's fair. How many NFL QBs can?

I was hoping improved defense would help. Clearly our passing game took a step backwards. Pryor (bust), Dox (potential), Crowder (disappointing), Reed (hurt too often.) I saw one poster saying he isn't going to put up the numbers he did the previous two years and this was due to the difference between McVay and Gruden. Hogwash! He is on pace for over 4,000 yards, 25-27 TDs and 8-9 INTs. That is with the most injuries in his three years of starting, no run game and sad to say but a crappy WR core.

I think the D was playing better but injuries to Allen and Iron Man have hurt a lot. How do we get better? I am at a loss. Every year we draw up a plan of what we need but somehow we keep coming up short or at best about average. I am for resigning Cousin's but this team needs a lot of help still. Giving up 38 points to Minnesota was bad no matter the QB. Special teams against Dallas killed the team. Lost to KC because Dox couldn't hold the ball and the D couldn't hold the Chiefs late.

For all the conversations about Cousin's on this board I don't know if it is going to matter greatly whether he is here or not if other areas aren't improved. Is this a 3-5 win team without him and an 8-10 win team with him? Those are the decisions the FO needs to make.
 

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i think we are moving forward but i have maintained for a long time we need another defensive draft the d/line just doesnt have enough horse and we need good depth at safety

i wonder how resigning TM will work out , we could sure use him because JR has been a huge bust
 

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Catalina back on the 53, Clemmings to IR

 

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See John Elway until Terrell Davis came along.

Keim makes some interesting points. Many of the Cousin's doubters say he can't carry the team. That's fair. How many NFL QBs can?

I was hoping improved defense would help. Clearly our passing game took a step backwards. Pryor (bust), Dox (potential), Crowder (disappointing), Reed (hurt too often.) I saw one poster saying he isn't going to put up the numbers he did the previous two years and this was due to the difference between McVay and Gruden. Hogwash! He is on pace for over 4,000 yards, 25-27 TDs and 8-9 INTs. That is with the most injuries in his three years of starting, no run game and sad to say but a crappy WR core.

I think the D was playing better but injuries to Allen and Iron Man have hurt a lot. How do we get better? I am at a loss. Every year we draw up a plan of what we need but somehow we keep coming up short or at best about average. I am for resigning Cousin's but this team needs a lot of help still. Giving up 38 points to Minnesota was bad no matter the QB. Special teams against Dallas killed the team. Lost to KC because Dox couldn't hold the ball and the D couldn't hold the Chiefs late.

For all the conversations about Cousin's on this board I don't know if it is going to matter greatly whether he is here or not if other areas aren't improved. Is this a 3-5 win team without him and an 8-10 win team with him? Those are the decisions the FO needs to make.

It is almost impossible to say what kind of team we are when healthy because we simply haven’t been all season.

Projected starters versus reality...
DE- Jonathan Allen...reality is McClain (backup)
DE- Matt Ironman...reality is McGee (backup)
NT- Ziggy Hood if you don’t count Phil Taylor...reality is still Ziggy Hood.

OLB- Ryan Kerrigan is still reality.
OLB- Trent Murphy\Preston Smith...reality is still Smith.
ILB- Zach Brown is the freakin’ man.
ILB- Mason Foster....reality Will Compton...wait he is hurt too...reality Martrell Spaight (3rd string)

CB- Josh Norman...reality Josh Norman who missed time and likely still has broken ribs.
CB- BB...reality Breeland who missed time

S- DJ...reality is DJ
S- Montae Nicholson...reality DHALL who is old, not a safety, and is really like 3rd string.
 

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League admitted this morning the IG call was a mistake.

To the moral victory.. Dilly Dilly
 

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Yep I didn't understand that call. He threw it right over Crowder's head more or less.

Does dean retract his statement now? :noidea:
 

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Yep I didn't understand that call. He threw it right over Crowder's head more or less.

Does dean retract his statement now? :noidea:

he started a new thread saying he was wrong
 
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