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'phils should trade VV while he has value'

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"no _phiLLies_ you're stupid. he's good. he has cool tats. he can throw hard. you don't know anything."

he has absolutely no value now. :finger2:
 

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"no _phiLLies_ you're stupid. he's good. he has cool tats. he can throw hard. you don't know anything."

he has absolutely no value now. :finger2:
only you can be happy about this. I am going to show this post to Vinnie in order to motivate him. He is still young enough to overcome his shortcomings!
 

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"no _phiLLies_ you're stupid. he's good. he has cool tats. he can throw hard. you don't know anything."

he has absolutely no value now. :finger2:

I think we give either send him down for further seasoning to work out his problems, or give him a few more starts, and then re-evaluate / send him down. If he goes down, bring up another possible Cy, if there is one at LHV.
 

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know who fucking sucks? that guy, vince velasquez. know what he's doing? keeping guys like de los santos and irvin down at AAA because he's wasting a fucking spot in the rotation.
 

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know who fucking sucks? that guy, vince velasquez. know what he's doing? keeping guys like de los santos and irvin down at AAA because he's wasting a fucking spot in the rotation.
You may be right. But I do not think the Phillies will throw the towel in just yet. But another game like the last may
be the deciding factor!
 

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Except for last night, Velasquez has shown some improvement in his last few starts, 2.30 in May’s five starts, to lower his ERA to 3.82 before yesterday’s blowout. It’s just too early to give up on the now 26-year old. He has to be in the mix while evaluating Pivetta, Eflin, and the possibly, soon to be back, Eickhoff.

All of these guys will just have to go out and do it. They could give up on any of these pitchers and buy one next year, I suppose.
 

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Also, Pivetta’s last start or two were pathetic, but he was, 3.24 in May and 2.79 in April.

Eflin was poor in May at 4.50, but beat cubs last week 6-1, now at 3.74. Always helpful when the offense scores some runs.
 

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Except for last night, Velasquez has shown some improvement in his last few starts, 2.30 in May’s five starts, to lower his ERA to 3.82 before yesterday’s blowout. It’s just too early to give up on the now 26-year old. He has to be in the mix while evaluating Pivetta, Eflin, and the possibly, soon to be back, Eickhoff.

All of these guys will just have to go out and do it. They could give up on any of these pitchers and buy one next year, I suppose.
De Los Santos is hot! Would like to see him soon!
 

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Except for last night, Velasquez has shown some improvement in his last few starts, 2.30 in May’s five starts, to lower his ERA to 3.82 before yesterday’s blowout. It’s just too early to give up on the now 26-year old. He has to be in the mix while evaluating Pivetta, Eflin, and the possibly, soon to be back, Eickhoff.

All of these guys will just have to go out and do it. They could give up on any of these pitchers and buy one next year, I suppose.
Eickhoff had a setback. They still don't know the source of the numbness.
 

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I wanted VV to succeed. I attended that 16 K game he threw, thought he had real potential. But I’ve given up after watching him fuck up consistently since then, with little indication that he’s been working to improve. Phils should trade him for an unknown Panamanian or just drop the bastard; he’ll never improve.
 
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