Phillies- Mets Thread.

[northeastphillyguy]

Eflin against Wheeler. There should be scoring from both sides. Wheeler is average at best and Eflin allows homeruns at an alarming rate. Would like to see some Homers from the Philies today!

 

[Omar 382]

Yep. Zack Wheeler, the guy who's pitched 295 innings with a 3.63/3.75/3.72 ERA/FIP/xFIP who averages 95 MPH on his fastball is "average at best."

God damn nig/ga, do something else. Baseball isn't your thing

 

[Guy Incognito]

Yep. Zack Wheeler, the guy who's pitched 295 innings with a 3.63/3.75/3.72 ERA/FIP/xFIP who averages 95 MPH on his fastball is "average at best."

God damn nig/ga, do something else. Baseball isn't your thing

Wheeler's got a higher career BB/9 than Vinny V.

Average.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Yep. Zack Wheeler, the guy who's pitched 295 innings with a 3.63/3.75/3.72 ERA/FIP/xFIP who averages 95 MPH on his fastball is "average at best."

God damn nig/ga, do something else. Baseball isn't your thing

Your insults mean nothing. Wheelers stats for this year are sub-par.

 

[Omar 382]

Wheeler's got a higher career BB/9 than Vinny V.

Average.

His FIP- last year was 96. In 100 IP in 2013, he had a 3.42 ERA. In 185.1 IP in 2014, he had a 3.54 ERA. He may walk a lot, but he also gets a lot of strikeouts, and pitches in a pitcher-friendly ballpark which helps him not give up as many home runs.

Anyone who is 26, throws in the mid-90's, and has had his first two "whole" seasons with an ERA under 3.54 is not average. You could say he's injury-riddled, sure, but not average.

 

[Omar 382]

Your insults mean nothing. Wheelers stats for this year are sub-par.

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you trying to piss me off? His stats from 9.2 goddamn innings means that he's sub-par?????

 

[Omar 382]

Zack Wheeler also has a career 50.2% GB rate, compared to Velasquez's paltry 33.7% career rate

 

[Guy Incognito]

His FIP- last year was 96. In 100 IP in 2013, he had a 3.42 ERA. In 185.1 IP, he had a 3.54 ERA. He may walk a lot, but he also gets a lot of strikeouts, and pitches in a pitcher-friendly ballpark which helps him not give up as many home runs.

Anyone who is 26, throws in the mid-90's, and has had his first two "whole" seasons with an ERA under 3.54 is not average. You could say he's injury-riddled, sure, but not average.

His ERA+ suggests otherwise.

Above average tools, average results.

 

[Omar 382]

His ERA+ suggests otherwise.

Above average tools, average results.

His ERA+ takes into account his ballpark, which definitely hurts his stats. Still, one season being 4% better than league average, and one season being 3% worse does not make him average. He strikes guys out, doesn't give up a lot of home runs, and induces a lot of ground balls. His only vice is his walks.

Also important to note, the league-wide ERA in 2014, 3.74, was the lowest in baseball since 1989. Considering ERA+ is dependent on league-average ERA, that would fuck that stat up. His FIP- was still very good that year.

 

[Guy Incognito]

His ERA+ takes into account his ballpark, which definitely hurts his stats. Still, one season being 4% better than league average, and one season being 3% worse does not make him average. He strikes guys out, doesn't give up a lot of home runs, and induces a lot of ground balls. His only vice is his walks.

Also important to note, the league-wide ERA in 2014, 3.74, was the lowest in baseball since 1989. Considering ERA+ is dependent on league-average ERA, that would fuck that stat up. His FIP- was still very good that year.

He's exactly at average. Average results.

And the league having a low ERA doesn't "fuck up" Wheeler's results. If Wheeler was that much better than the rest of the league, it'd also reflect in his ERA. Either he's ridiculously unlucky or he puts too many guys on base.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

He's exactly at average. Average results.

And the league having a low ERA doesn't "fuck up" Wheeler's results. If Wheeler was that much better than the rest of the league, it'd also reflect in his ERA. Either he's ridiculously unlucky or he puts too many guys on base.

I agree. He is nothing special.

 

[jvett77]

Hey, niggas, fuck Zack W, let's talk Zack E.

The 6' 6 Eflin got off to a great start at LHV, 2-0, 0.00, 10 IP, 10K, 3BB. His record in the minors is: 4 yrs, 34-32, 3.34, 316K, 103BB; For the Phils in 2016, the 23 year old was unimpressive, 3-5, 5.54 in 11 games. Zack and Vinnie will make a great duo when they mature.

 

[jvett77]

Eflin against Wheeler. There should be scoring from both sides. Wheeler is average at best and Eflin allows homeruns at an alarming rate. Would like to see some Homers from the Philies today!

Is 30 homers in 463 innings an alarming rate? That's a HR every 15 innings or about every two appearances for Eflin.

 

[Omar 382]

ODUBEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Omar 382]

Maybe Wheeler IS average

Still, fuck @northeastphillyguy- Fat sloppy Twinkie eating ass nig/ga
You ain’t got no pass, nig/ga, I’ma beat your ass, nig/ga
Jelly bean smuggling ass nig/ga
I’ll get some clippers and cut your mama’s mustache, nig/ga

 

[jvett77]

Let's go, Zack, get thru the second and it's all downhill.

 

[Guy Incognito]

Maybe Wheeler IS average

Still, fuck @northeastphillyguy- Fat sloppy Twinkie eating ass nig/ga
You ain’t got no pass, nig/ga, I’ma beat your ass, nig/ga
Jelly bean smuggling ass nig/ga
I’ll get some clippers and cut your mama’s mustache, nig/ga

65 pitches through 3 innings.

Vinny Velasquez-esque.

 

[Cedrique]

Smoker? I barely even know her

 

[jvett77]

I would have left Eflin in. Fuck the bullpen.

 

[Cedrique]

Are there any big Cuban signings coming up? We got boatloads of money and no talent. Thanks $$$$MOntgomery