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[PhilSimms11]

Today's draft was teams that missed the playoffs last season that are most likely to make it this season.

MIKE
(1)SF
(3)NYG
(5)BAL
(7)HOU

CHRIS
(2)GB
(4)LAC
(6)DET
(8)OAK

Shocked that neither one picked DAL.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

SF - Why? I get Jimmy G. is with them, but people are acting like their roster is just INSANE now. Okay they won 5 games in a row to finish out the season.. against a bunch of shitty teams with the exception of Jax (Rams were resting) who likely wasn't going to get HFA anyway. Rams are good, Arizona CAN be good especially with Johnson returning, and Seattle still wins stuff with Wilson. Might be the most overrated team going into the season.

NYG - Huh? I'd put Dallas, Green Bay, Seattle, or even Detroit ALL over this team. Hell I'd be inclined to put Washington here. I get NYG are sexy because OMG Beckham + Barkley! But Eli is woefully inconsistent and Beckham needs to come back and show it along with Barkley who is unproven.

BAL - Yah, I'll give Mike this one. Flacco sucks but Ozzie is one of the best GMs in the league and generally fields a good product despite the mediocre QB situation.

HOU - I'm not sold here, yet. There's just too many injury issues all over. Fuller, Watson, is JJ Watt going to be healthy? Miller is still 27-28 so that should be okay. Their draft didn't do much though given they had no early picks. I like Watson more than Prescott/Griffin 3 and it's not even close, but everyone RAVED about those two and I said, "Let's see what season #2 with footage brings first."

GB - Duh. If Aaron Rodgers is healthy this is easy, can't fault though.

LAC - I like this, if Allen stays healthy. I liked the Chargers draft too and KC may be inconsistent with Mahomes.

DET - Agreed, see my NYG comment.

OAK - Eh...... I guess I could see this, but really because of Greg Olson and not Gruden. Olson did wonders with Goff and he'll likely due wonders with Carr, while Gruden likely will get all the credit because it's Gruden and ESPN/NFL/most fans love to nut hug him.


Summary: If it's not obvious Mike is high as a fucking kite, and Chris is sensible.

 

[SteelersPride]

sounds like some BS

 

[PhilSimms11]

There have been several teams that rebounded quite well after a terrible season. It can be done.
1971 (4-8-2) Packers 1972 (10-4)--won division
1972 (6-7-1) Rams 1973 (12-2)--won division
1973 (4-9-1) Cardinals 1974 (10-4)--won division
1974 (2-12) Colts 1975 (10-4)--won division
1975 (3-11) Patriots 1976 (11-3)--wildcard
1978 (5-11) Bucs 1979 (10-6)--won division
1979 (6-10) Falcons 1980 (12-4)--won division

1980 (6-10) Bengals 1981 (12-4)--reached Super Bowl
1980 (4-12) Jets 1981 (10-5-1)--wildcard
1980 (4-12) Giants 1981 (9-7)--wildcard
1980 (6-10) 49ers 1981 (13-3)--won Super Bowl
1981 (7-9) Raiders 1982 (8-1)--1-seed in AFC*
1981 (8-8) Redskins 1982 (8-1)--won Super Bowl*
1983 (3-12-1) Giants 1984 (9-7)--wildcard
1985 (6-10) Chiefs 1985 (10-6)--wildcard
1986 (3-13) Colts 1987 (9-6)--won division*
1986 (7-9) Saints 1987 (12-3)--wildcard
1987 (7-8)* Bills 1988 (12-4)--won division
1987 (4-11)* Bengals 1988 (12-4)--won division
1989 (6-10) Bears 1990 (11-5)--won division

1990 (5-11) Broncos 1991 (12-4)--won division
1990 (6-10) Lions 1991 (12-4)--won division
1991 (4-12) Chargers 1992 (11-5)--won division
1992 (6-10) Giants 1993 (11-5)--wildcard
1992 (5-11) Lions 1993 (10-6)--won division
1993 (5-11) Patriots 1994 (10-6)--wildcard
1995 (6-10) Patriots 1996 (11-5)--won division
1995 (4-12) Jaguars 1996 (9-7)--wildcard
1995 (8-8) Broncos 1996 (13-3)--won division
1995 (7-9) Panthers 1996 (12-4)--won division
1996 (6-10) Giants 1997 (10-5-1)--won division
1997 (6-10) Bills 1998 (10-6)--wildcard
1997 (4-12) Cardinals 1998 (9-7)--wildcard
1997 (7-9) Falcons 1998 (14-2)--reached Super Bowl
1998 (3-13) Colts 1999 (13-3)--won division
1998 (4-12) Rams 1999 (13-3)--won Super Bowl
1998 (6-10) Redskins 1999 (10-6)--won division
1998 (8-8) Titans 1999 (13-3)--reached Super Bowl
1999 (8-8) Ravens 2000 (12-4)--won Super Bowl
1999 (3-13) Saints 2000 (10-6)--won division
1999 (7-9) Giants 2000 (12-4)--reached Super Bowl
1999 (5-11) Eagles 2000 (11-5)--wildcard
1999 (8-8) Raiders 2000 (12-4)--won division
1999 (6-10) Broncos 2000 (11-5)--wildcard

2000 (5-11) Patriots 2001 (11-5)--won division
2000 (9-7) Steelers 2001 (13-3)--won division
2000 (5-11) Bears 2001 (13-3)--won division
2000 (6-10) 49ers 2001 (12-4)--wildcard
2002 (9-7) Patriots 2003 (14-2)--won Super Bowl
2002 (8-8) Chiefs 2003 (13-3)--won division
2002 (5-11) Cowboys 2003 (10-6)--wildcard
2002 (7-9) Panthers 2003 (11-5)--reached Super Bowl
2002 (7-9) Rams 2003 (12-4)--won division
2003 (6-10) Jets 2004 (10-6)--wildcard
2003 (4-12) Chargers 2004 (12-4)--won division
2003 (5-11) Falcons 2004 (11-5)--won division
(*)strike-shortened season

Just to name a few...

 

[SteelersPride]

coolio

 

[NinerSickness]

SF - Why? I get Jimmy G. is with them, but people are acting like their roster is just INSANE now. Okay they won 5 games in a row to finish out the season.. against a bunch of shitty teams with the exception of Jax (Rams were resting) who likely wasn't going to get HFA anyway. Rams are good, Arizona CAN be good especially with Johnson returning, and Seattle still wins stuff with Wilson. Might be the most overrated team going into the season.

This. The roster is alright. I haven't heard a lot of people predicting they'll be better than the Rams, but people do need to chill out a bit on the Niners. Still several weak spots.

Now if they make a trade or 2 and / or sign John Hankins...

 

[PhilSimms11]

Best NFL rivalries.
MIKE
(1)Bears-Packers
(3)Bengals-Steelers
(5)49ers-Rams
(7)NFL-Donald Trump

CHRIS
(2)Cowboys-Redskins
(4)Ravens-Steelers
(6)Odell Beckham-Josh Norman
(8)Cowboys-Steelers

 

[PhilSimms11]

Most dominant NFL dynasty.
CHRIS
(1)Patriots (2002-present)
(3)49ers (1981-90)
(5)Browns (1950s)

MIKE
(2)Steelers (1975-80)
(4)Packers (1960s)
(6)Cowboys (1992-96)

This one was tough for Stats, but he gave the win to Chris.

 

[PhilSimms11]

Most impressive NFL accomplishment by a team or player.
MIKE
(1)Brett Favre's 321 consecutive games played
(2)John Unitas' 47-game TD streak
(3)Adrian Peterson's 2097 yards rushing (2012)

CHRIS
(1)Dolphins perfect 17-0 season (1972)
(2)OJ Simpson's 2003 yards rushing (1973)
(3)Jerry Rice's 22 TDs receiving in 12 games (1987)

 

[PhilSimms11]

Teams most likely to win the next 2 Super Bowls.
CHRIS
(1)Saints
(2)Steelers
(3)Rams

MIKE
(1)Patriots
(2)Packers
(3)49ers

 

[SteelersPride]

Teams most likely to win the next 2 Super Bowls.
CHRIS
(1)Saints
(2)Steelers
(3)Rams

MIKE
(1)Patriots
(2)Packers
(3)49ers

49ers really

 

[PhilSimms11]

49ers really

I think it's a long shot, but, you never know.