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Grading the Pac-12 football non-conference schedules for the next five years

ARIZONA
2018: vs. BYU, at Houston, vs. Southern Utah
2019: at Hawaii, vs. Northern Arizona, vs. Texas Tech
2020: vs. Hawaii, vs. Portland State, at Texas Tech
2021: vs. BYU (in Las Vegas), vs. Northern Arizona, vs. San Diego State
2022: at San Diego State, vs. Mississippi State, vs. North Dakota State
Comment: Nice to see the Wildcats finally adding some Power Five opponents. The date with Texas Tech in ’19 will mark their first non-conference P5 game since the Oklahoma State series in 2011-12. (No Pac-12 team should ever go that long without a P5 home-and-home.) Hawaii and Texas: Smart for recruiting.
Grade: A-

ARIZONA STATE
2018: vs. UTSA, vs. Michigan State, at San Diego State
2019: vs. Kent State, vs. Sacramento State, at Michigan State
2020: vs. Northern Arizona, at UNLV, vs. BYU
2021: vs. Louisiana Lafayette, vs. UNLV, at BYU
2022: vs. Northern Arizona, at Oklahoma State, vs. Eastern Michigan
Comment: The series with BYU and UNLV make plenty of sense, unless they’re in the same year. Like the Oklahoma State series — the Cowboys visit Tempe in ’23 — but ASU needs to get into Texas as often as possible.
Grade: B-

CAL
2018: vs. North Carolina, at BYU, vs. Idaho State
2019: vs. UC Davis, vs. North Texas, at Mississippi
2020: at UNLV, vs. TCU, vs. Cal Poly
2021: vs. Nevada, at TCU, vs. Sacramento State
2022: vs. UC Davis, at North Texas, vs. UNLV
Comment: Never thought the North Carolina or Ole Miss series made much sense, while the TCU series is a remnant of the Sonny Dykes era: It doesn’t support the west coast-centric recruiting plans under Justin Wilcox. And that ’22 lineup? Yuck. Beyond the five-year timeframe but worth noting: The Bears have a home-and-home with Auburn in 2023-24.
Grade: C-

COLORADO
2018: vs Colorado State (Denver), at Nebraska, vs. New Hampshire
2019: vs Colorado State (Denver), vs. Air Force, vs. Nebraska
2020: at Colorado State, vs. Fresno State, at Texas A&M
2021: vs. UMass, vs. Texas A&M, vs. Minnesota
2022: vs. TCU, at Air Force, at Minnesota
Comment: Love the Nebraska series for numerous reasons (this year marks the first meeting of the post-Big 12 era). Also smart of the Buffs to load up on home-and-homes with Texas teams given their reliance on the state for recruiting. If Minnesota is good, the ’21 and ’22 schedules will be daunting.
Grade: A+

OREGON
2018: vs. Bowling Green, vs. Portland State, vs. San Jose State
2019: vs. Auburn (Arlington), vs. Nevada, vs. Montana
2020: vs North Dakota State, vs. Ohio State, vs. Hawaii
2021: vs. Fresno State, at Ohio State, vs. Stony Brook
2022: vs. BYU, vs. Eastern Washington, open
Comment: Not much to dislike here and worth noting that Oregon has contracts with Texas Tech and Baylor for home-and-home series beyond this five-year window. In addition, Mullens is hunting an A-level opponent for 2025-26.
Grade: B+ (with the potential for better depending on how the Ducks fill the ’22 opening)

OREGON STATE
2018: at Ohio State, vs. Southern Utah, at Nevada
2019: vs. Oklahoma State, at Hawaii, vs. Cal Poly
2020: vs. Colorado State, vs. Portland State, at Oklahoma State
2021: at Purdue, vs. Hawaii, vs. Idaho
2022: vs. Boise State, at Fresno State, vs. Montana State
Comment: Lineups make perfect sense and carry plenty of tangible benefits for the Beavers (unless they lose the C-level games): They should get to Hawaii and the Central Valley as often as possible. Oh, and Ohio State is not a home-and-home — no trip to Corvallis for the Buckeyes. Instead, the Beavers will play a one-off game in Columbus and collect $170,000 for their troubles … Sorry, make that $1.7 million.
Grade: A

STANFORD
2018: vs. San Diego State, vs. UC Davis, at Notre Dame
2019: vs. Northwestern, at UCF, vs Notre Dame
2020: vs. William & Mary, at Notre Dame, vs. BYU
2021: at Kansas State, at Vanderbilt, vs. Notre Dame
2022: open, vs. BYU, at Notre Dame
Comment: How about that 2021 schedule? One-two-three Power Five opponents, and two of them on the road. It’s not like the ’19 lineup is easy, either: UCF just won 13 games. Kudos to the Cardinal for taking an A-A-B … or A-A-A … approach in two of the five years. (I asked Mullens if BYU counted as A-level or B-level, and he said: “They’re in the A-B range,” then noted the Cougars’ ability to sell tickets wherever they go.)
Grade: A

UCLA
2018: vs. Cincinnati, at Oklahoma, vs. Fresno State
2019: at Cincinnati, vs. Oklahoma, vs. San Diego State
2020: at San Diego State, open, open
2021: vs. LSU, vs. Fresno State, open
2022: vs. Bowling Green, vs. Michigan, vs. South Alabama
Comment: If you’re wondering: The last time LSU came west to face one of the four California schools was 1984, when the Tigers put a beating on USC (Dalton Hilliard: two touchdowns). They have never played UCLA, anywhere; nor have they set foot inside the Rose Bowl, ever. I’d pay to see that one. The Bruins head to Death valley in ’24, then welcome Georgia onto the schedule.
Grade: A (with the potential for A+ depending on how the openings are filled)

USC
2018: vs. UNLV, at Texas, vs. Notre Dame
2019: vs. Fresno State, at BYU, at Notre Dame
2020: open, vs. New Mexico, vs. Notre Dame
2021: open, vs. BYU, at Notre Dame
2022: vs. Rice, vs. Fresno State, vs. Notre Dame
Comment: How will the Trojans fill the open dates: With low-level home games or more neutral-site showcases? Published reports last month indicated an Alabama rematch was set for ’20, but the schools haven’t uttered a peep. The ’22 lineup is a bit underwhelming, and ’21 could be as well, depending on the third opponent. As with Stanford, the Trojans must weigh the benefits of marquee intersectional series with the risk that comes with playing two A-level games.
Grade: A- (assuming Alabama for ’20 and with the potential for better based on the third team in ’21)

UTAH
2018: vs. Weber State, at Northern Illinois, vs. BYU
2019: at BYU, vs. Northern Illinois, vs. Idaho State
2020: vs. BYU, vs. Montana State, at Wyoming
2021: vs. Weber State, at BYU, at San Diego State
2022: vs. Southern Utah, vs. BYU, vs. San Diego State
Comment: Perhaps the most disappointing lineup of non-conference schedules in the Pac-12. The Utes are plenty capable of facing Power Five opponents but instead are loaded with former Mountain West rivals in 2020-22. (SDSU makes sense for recruiting.) Baylor comes on the schedule in ’23, but what state the Bears will be in at the time is anyone’s guess. Sure would like to have seen an A-level opponent.
Grade: D

WASHINGTON
2018: vs. Auburn (Atlanta), vs. North Dakota, vs. BYU
2019: vs. Eastern Washington, vs. Hawaii, at BYU
2020: vs. Michigan, vs. Sacramento State, vs. Utah State
2021: vs. Montana, at Michigan, open
2022: Portland State, open, open
Comment: After five years of ho-hum schedules caused, in part, by canceled games, the situation improves markedly. In addition to Auburn in ’18 and the home-and-home against Michigan, the Huskies play a certain other Big Ten power — it wears scarlet and gray — in the middle of the next decade. Let’s hope one of the ’22 opening is filled with an A-level opponent.
Grade: B+ (with the potential for better based on the final lineups in ’21 and ’22)

WASHINGTON STATE
2018: at Wyoming, vs. San Jose State, vs. Eastern Washington
2019: vs. New Mexico State, vs. Northern Colorado, at Houston
2020: at Utah State, vs. Houston, vs. Idaho
2021: vs. Utah State, vs. Portland State, vs. BYU
2022: at Wisconsin, vs Colorado State, open
Comment: Would love to have seen one A-Level opponent prior to the Wisconsin series in 2022-23, but the Cougars are limited in their ability to attract Power Five opponents (to a greater extent than even Oregon State) because the Palouse provides no recruiting benefit to teams from other quadrants.
Grade: B
 

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Grading the Pac-12 football non-conference schedules for the next five years

ARIZONA
2018: vs. BYU, at Houston, vs. Southern Utah
2019: at Hawaii, vs. Northern Arizona, vs. Texas Tech
2020: vs. Hawaii, vs. Portland State, at Texas Tech
2021: vs. BYU (in Las Vegas), vs. Northern Arizona, vs. San Diego State
2022: at San Diego State, vs. Mississippi State, vs. North Dakota State
Comment: Nice to see the Wildcats finally adding some Power Five opponents. The date with Texas Tech in ’19 will mark their first non-conference P5 game since the Oklahoma State series in 2011-12. (No Pac-12 team should ever go that long without a P5 home-and-home.) Hawaii and Texas: Smart for recruiting.
Grade: A-

ARIZONA STATE
2018: vs. UTSA, vs. Michigan State, at San Diego State
2019: vs. Kent State, vs. Sacramento State, at Michigan State
2020: vs. Northern Arizona, at UNLV, vs. BYU
2021: vs. Louisiana Lafayette, vs. UNLV, at BYU
2022: vs. Northern Arizona, at Oklahoma State, vs. Eastern Michigan
Comment: The series with BYU and UNLV make plenty of sense, unless they’re in the same year. Like the Oklahoma State series — the Cowboys visit Tempe in ’23 — but ASU needs to get into Texas as often as possible.
Grade: B-

CAL
2018: vs. North Carolina, at BYU, vs. Idaho State
2019: vs. UC Davis, vs. North Texas, at Mississippi
2020: at UNLV, vs. TCU, vs. Cal Poly
2021: vs. Nevada, at TCU, vs. Sacramento State
2022: vs. UC Davis, at North Texas, vs. UNLV
Comment: Never thought the North Carolina or Ole Miss series made much sense, while the TCU series is a remnant of the Sonny Dykes era: It doesn’t support the west coast-centric recruiting plans under Justin Wilcox. And that ’22 lineup? Yuck. Beyond the five-year timeframe but worth noting: The Bears have a home-and-home with Auburn in 2023-24.
Grade: C-

COLORADO
2018: vs Colorado State (Denver), at Nebraska, vs. New Hampshire
2019: vs Colorado State (Denver), vs. Air Force, vs. Nebraska
2020: at Colorado State, vs. Fresno State, at Texas A&M
2021: vs. UMass, vs. Texas A&M, vs. Minnesota
2022: vs. TCU, at Air Force, at Minnesota
Comment: Love the Nebraska series for numerous reasons (this year marks the first meeting of the post-Big 12 era). Also smart of the Buffs to load up on home-and-homes with Texas teams given their reliance on the state for recruiting. If Minnesota is good, the ’21 and ’22 schedules will be daunting.
Grade: A+

OREGON
2018: vs. Bowling Green, vs. Portland State, vs. San Jose State
2019: vs. Auburn (Arlington), vs. Nevada, vs. Montana
2020: vs North Dakota State, vs. Ohio State, vs. Hawaii
2021: vs. Fresno State, at Ohio State, vs. Stony Brook
2022: vs. BYU, vs. Eastern Washington, open
Comment: Not much to dislike here and worth noting that Oregon has contracts with Texas Tech and Baylor for home-and-home series beyond this five-year window. In addition, Mullens is hunting an A-level opponent for 2025-26.
Grade: B+ (with the potential for better depending on how the Ducks fill the ’22 opening)

OREGON STATE
2018: at Ohio State, vs. Southern Utah, at Nevada
2019: vs. Oklahoma State, at Hawaii, vs. Cal Poly
2020: vs. Colorado State, vs. Portland State, at Oklahoma State
2021: at Purdue, vs. Hawaii, vs. Idaho
2022: vs. Boise State, at Fresno State, vs. Montana State
Comment: Lineups make perfect sense and carry plenty of tangible benefits for the Beavers (unless they lose the C-level games): They should get to Hawaii and the Central Valley as often as possible. Oh, and Ohio State is not a home-and-home — no trip to Corvallis for the Buckeyes. Instead, the Beavers will play a one-off game in Columbus and collect $170,000 for their troubles … Sorry, make that $1.7 million.
Grade: A

STANFORD
2018: vs. San Diego State, vs. UC Davis, at Notre Dame
2019: vs. Northwestern, at UCF, vs Notre Dame
2020: vs. William & Mary, at Notre Dame, vs. BYU
2021: at Kansas State, at Vanderbilt, vs. Notre Dame
2022: open, vs. BYU, at Notre Dame
Comment: How about that 2021 schedule? One-two-three Power Five opponents, and two of them on the road. It’s not like the ’19 lineup is easy, either: UCF just won 13 games. Kudos to the Cardinal for taking an A-A-B … or A-A-A … approach in two of the five years. (I asked Mullens if BYU counted as A-level or B-level, and he said: “They’re in the A-B range,” then noted the Cougars’ ability to sell tickets wherever they go.)
Grade: A

UCLA
2018: vs. Cincinnati, at Oklahoma, vs. Fresno State
2019: at Cincinnati, vs. Oklahoma, vs. San Diego State
2020: at San Diego State, open, open
2021: vs. LSU, vs. Fresno State, open
2022: vs. Bowling Green, vs. Michigan, vs. South Alabama
Comment: If you’re wondering: The last time LSU came west to face one of the four California schools was 1984, when the Tigers put a beating on USC (Dalton Hilliard: two touchdowns). They have never played UCLA, anywhere; nor have they set foot inside the Rose Bowl, ever. I’d pay to see that one. The Bruins head to Death valley in ’24, then welcome Georgia onto the schedule.
Grade: A (with the potential for A+ depending on how the openings are filled)

USC
2018: vs. UNLV, at Texas, vs. Notre Dame
2019: vs. Fresno State, at BYU, at Notre Dame
2020: open, vs. New Mexico, vs. Notre Dame
2021: open, vs. BYU, at Notre Dame
2022: vs. Rice, vs. Fresno State, vs. Notre Dame
Comment: How will the Trojans fill the open dates: With low-level home games or more neutral-site showcases? Published reports last month indicated an Alabama rematch was set for ’20, but the schools haven’t uttered a peep. The ’22 lineup is a bit underwhelming, and ’21 could be as well, depending on the third opponent. As with Stanford, the Trojans must weigh the benefits of marquee intersectional series with the risk that comes with playing two A-level games.
Grade: A- (assuming Alabama for ’20 and with the potential for better based on the third team in ’21)

UTAH
2018: vs. Weber State, at Northern Illinois, vs. BYU
2019: at BYU, vs. Northern Illinois, vs. Idaho State
2020: vs. BYU, vs. Montana State, at Wyoming
2021: vs. Weber State, at BYU, at San Diego State
2022: vs. Southern Utah, vs. BYU, vs. San Diego State
Comment: Perhaps the most disappointing lineup of non-conference schedules in the Pac-12. The Utes are plenty capable of facing Power Five opponents but instead are loaded with former Mountain West rivals in 2020-22. (SDSU makes sense for recruiting.) Baylor comes on the schedule in ’23, but what state the Bears will be in at the time is anyone’s guess. Sure would like to have seen an A-level opponent.
Grade: D

WASHINGTON
2018: vs. Auburn (Atlanta), vs. North Dakota, vs. BYU
2019: vs. Eastern Washington, vs. Hawaii, at BYU
2020: vs. Michigan, vs. Sacramento State, vs. Utah State
2021: vs. Montana, at Michigan, open
2022: Portland State, open, open
Comment: After five years of ho-hum schedules caused, in part, by canceled games, the situation improves markedly. In addition to Auburn in ’18 and the home-and-home against Michigan, the Huskies play a certain other Big Ten power — it wears scarlet and gray — in the middle of the next decade. Let’s hope one of the ’22 opening is filled with an A-level opponent.
Grade: B+ (with the potential for better based on the final lineups in ’21 and ’22)

WASHINGTON STATE
2018: at Wyoming, vs. San Jose State, vs. Eastern Washington
2019: vs. New Mexico State, vs. Northern Colorado, at Houston
2020: at Utah State, vs. Houston, vs. Idaho
2021: vs. Utah State, vs. Portland State, vs. BYU
2022: at Wisconsin, vs Colorado State, open
Comment: Would love to have seen one A-Level opponent prior to the Wisconsin series in 2022-23, but the Cougars are limited in their ability to attract Power Five opponents (to a greater extent than even Oregon State) because the Palouse provides no recruiting benefit to teams from other quadrants.
Grade: B

Those grades are all over the map. They give Wazzou a B for one P5 opponent in '22 but Cal a C- when they have one at least every year but '22? And I would line Utah's non-conf up against the Cougars every year except for '22 but yet they get a D. Although, I do want to see Utah's non-conference schedule get tougher.
 

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OREGON STATE
2018: at Ohio State, vs. Southern Utah, at Nevada
2019: vs. Oklahoma State, at Hawaii, vs. Cal Poly
2020: vs. Colorado State, vs. Portland State, at Oklahoma State
2021: at Purdue, vs. Hawaii, vs. Idaho
2022: vs. Boise State, at Fresno State, vs. Montana State
Comment: Lineups make perfect sense and carry plenty of tangible benefits for the Beavers (unless they lose the C-level games): They should get to Hawaii and the Central Valley as often as possible. Oh, and Ohio State is not a home-and-home — no trip to Corvallis for the Buckeyes. Instead, the Beavers will play a one-off game in Columbus and collect $170,000 for their troubles … Sorry, make that $1.7 million.
Grade: A


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I do believe Cohen said UW was back in the black again last season. They more or less broke even with something like a $2,000 profit, but that was better than the projected deficit that was supposed to be something around 5 million in the hole.

Even that 7 million deficit the prior year was much better than the 15-16 million they were projecting early that season.

Cohen and her staff have turned that ship around and are tracking up. At one point they actually had the team ride a bus back home from a game at Oregon State instead of their normal charter flights.

Of course the football program itself trending upward has a major impact on that. Fundraising is way up on top of added ticket sales and merchandise.

It's a damned shame what all of these schools are having to go through largely because their conf TV deal is a total and complete embarrassing joke.

#firescott
 

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5 year senior, TE/WR Kano Dillon, who played for USF, will grad transfer to Oregon.
 

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I do believe Cohen said UW was back in the black again last season. They more or less broke even with something like a $2,000 profit, but that was better than the projected deficit that was supposed to be something around 5 million in the hole.

Even that 7 million deficit the prior year was much better than the 15-16 million they were projecting early that season.

Cohen and her staff have turned that ship around and are tracking up. At one point they actually had the team ride a bus back home from a game at Oregon State instead of their normal charter flights.

Of course the football program itself trending upward has a major impact on that. Fundraising is way up on top of added ticket sales and merchandise.

It's a damned shame what all of these schools are having to go through largely because their conf TV deal is a total and complete embarrassing joke.

#firescott
Yep. Finances were balanced last year as ticket sales had big jumps in fb and bb. 2 PAC teams in BCS level bowls helped tremendously with the bowl payout distributions to the conf.
Next year, the floodgates open with the Addidas deal and we should have no issues with the continued payoff of the stadium remodel, AD facilities upgrades, coaches salaries, and meeting Title IX requirements.

Huskies finances for the near and longer term looking solid with Petersen, Hopkins, and Addidas.
 

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Oregon picked up 3 over the weekend with their spring game.
Mase Funa 4* DE with offers from ASU, Cal, Florida State, Illinois, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Texas, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington
Cameron Williams 3* QB with offers from Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Oregon State, UCLA, WSU
Jayvaun Wilson 3*RB with offers from Arizona, ASU, Cal, Neb, Oregon State, Utah, Washington.
 

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Kano Dillon to transfer in. Career 28 catches 504 yards 4 TDs. was 3 star recruit with offers from Kentucky and Wisconsin.

have also picked up Tim Hough. Corner from UNLV. was only a 2 star recruit with no other offers than UNLV. played decently for UNLV though.

Oregon is in the running for WF WR Tabari Hines. He would be the big fish grad transfer for Oregon. Last year had 7 TD on 53 catches for 683 yards.
 

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Sam's a south paw too isn't he?

I mean is there any reason to believe he wouldn't go to his home town school unless UW is seriously overstocked at QB? His dad and uncle are UW legends. I mean he could want to not follow in that shadow, but I wouldn't bank on him leaving the state for sure.
 

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Sam's a south paw too isn't he?

I mean is there any reason to believe he wouldn't go to his home town school unless UW is seriously overstocked at QB? His dad and uncle are UW legends. I mean he could want to not follow in that shadow, but I wouldn't bank on him leaving the state for sure.
Signing Eason was not a good idea imo. It's pissed off the other two QB's ... Sirmon & Yankoff and now with Haener starting to pick up his game it's going to have an effect on future QB recruits. How many studs can you have in your stable while keeping them all happy. These kids are going to want playing time.
 

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Signing Eason was not a good idea imo. It's pissed off the other two QB's ... Sirmon & Yankoff and now with Haener starting to pick up his game it's going to have an effect on future QB recruits. How many studs can you have in your stable while keeping them all happy. These kids are going to want playing time.
I mean Sam's only a freshman?

Browning will take the rock next year and either Haener or one of the TF's will be his backup. Haener only bails IMO if he can't at least make 2nd and if he does it means one of the other two is just that good so meh?

Eason likely/probably/maybe starts the '19 season. Haener is the most likely to want to leave again if he's not high on the depth chart and expect to play.

I really doubt Eason stays past that one year.

So in '20 you get the best of Sirmon/Yankoff or possibly Haener if he just surprises and ends up on top.

Huard wouldn't be signing until after that season. Probably sits out with a RS in '21 anyway. Millen also has a second son that coaches say is better than his older one now on his way to Northwestern that might be on UW's radar as well.

But to your point, why on earth wouldn't a high caliber QB want to go to a school attracting and building top QB talent? If you are that good you aren't afraid of beating out other top talent.
 

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I mean Sam's only a freshman?

Browning will take the rock next year and either Haener or one of the TF's will be his backup. Haener only bails IMO if he can't at least make 2nd and if he does it means one of the other two is just that good so meh?

Eason likely/probably/maybe starts the '19 season. Haener is the most likely to want to leave again if he's not high on the depth chart and expect to play.

I really doubt Eason stays past that one year.

So in '20 you get the best of Sirmon/Yankoff or possibly Haener if he just surprises and ends up on top.

Huard wouldn't be signing until after that season. Probably sits out with a RS in '21 anyway. Millen also has a second son that coaches say is better than his older one now on his way to Northwestern that might be on UW's radar as well.

But to your point, why on earth wouldn't a high caliber QB want to go to a school attracting and building top QB talent? If you are that good you aren't afraid of beating out other top talent.
There's going to be transfers is all I know.
 

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I mean Sam's only a freshman?

Browning will take the rock next year and either Haener or one of the TF's will be his backup. Haener only bails IMO if he can't at least make 2nd and if he does it means one of the other two is just that good so meh?

Eason likely/probably/maybe starts the '19 season. Haener is the most likely to want to leave again if he's not high on the depth chart and expect to play.

I really doubt Eason stays past that one year.

So in '20 you get the best of Sirmon/Yankoff or possibly Haener if he just surprises and ends up on top.

Huard wouldn't be signing until after that season. Probably sits out with a RS in '21 anyway. Millen also has a second son that coaches say is better than his older one now on his way to Northwestern that might be on UW's radar as well.

But to your point, why on earth wouldn't a high caliber QB want to go to a school attracting and building top QB talent? If you are that good you aren't afraid of beating out other top talent.

There can be only one. USC has loaded up on top QBs since 2000 and once the dust settles the losers usually take off because all of these players have started their whole life. There's no more Matt Cassells. The ones who stay are around two years behind the starter minimum hoping they get two years of being a starter. It's a good problem to have but it is a problem trying to keep all the egos happy. The way you keep them is you show them how it almost never works out for the QBs who transfer.
 

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Oregon gets a commit for 2021. Seven (Can I buy a T) McGee rb/db from So Cal. He's 5'9" 175 ( I coulda guessed that).

So far Oregon #1 class for 2021.
 
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