Ongoing NHL Thread Part IV - A New Hope

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Scott Wheeler of the Athletic wrote an article ranking the prospect pools of each of the Canadian teams - Canucks are ranked #1 followed by the Flames and Leafs.

Other items of note: He ranks Adam Fox as the top Flames prospect and also ranks Valimaki ahead of Juolevi.

Chabot is almost guaranteed to pass the rookie threshold this year, not sure why he's ranked as a prospect.

In the same vein, I think Travis Dermott is ahead of both Liljegren and Kapanen at the moment (I don't know how those two rank one on one either) for the Leafs.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Also, Dahlen is probably ahead of Juolevi for the Nucks no?

/Lolsens

 

[DragonfromTO]

Chabot is almost guaranteed to pass the rookie threshold this year, not sure why he's ranked as a prospect.

In the same vein, I think Travis Dermott is ahead of both Liljegren and Kapanen at the moment (I don't know how those two rank one on one either) for the Leafs.

While he may not be there yet Liljegren has 3 years to just get to where Dermott is now, no? I think that puts him ahead for me.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

While he may not be there yet Liljegren has 3 years to just get to where Dermott is now, no? I think that puts him ahead for me.

In that case so does Rasanen and whoever else the Leafs took this summer of that age. It’s not like Liljegren has been tearing up the A (or staying healthy) this year.

If we’re asking who, right now, the top prospect in the Leafs organization is I’d say it’s Dermott. The fact that this time next year Liljegren could be looking amazing doesn’t change what he is today for me.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Also, Dahlen is probably ahead of Juolevi for the Nucks no?

/Lolsens

nope Dahlen is still second division ... Gaudette might be

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

nope Dahlen is still second division ... Gaudette might be

Gaudette's scoring at about the same pace that Vesey was at 21. That's decent but Vesey isn't much of an NHLer.

I give Dahlen a pass because of the mono. That fucked with Liljegren last season too.

 

[DragonfromTO]

In that case so does Rasanen and whoever else the Leafs took this summer of that age. It’s not like Liljegren has been tearing up the A (or staying healthy) this year.

If we’re asking who, right now, the top prospect in the Leafs organization is I’d say it’s Dermott. The fact that this time next year Liljegren could be looking amazing doesn’t change what he is today for me.

Rasanen is playing at the same level that Dermott was at his age (with similar success). So he's gotta progress just as quickly as Dermott already has to get to the same place. I don't think that's as likely a scenario as Liljegren's hypothetical required development.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Gaudette's scoring at about the same pace that Vesey was at 21. That's decent but Vesey isn't much of an NHLer.

I give Dahlen a pass because of the mono. That fucked with Liljegren last season too.

I think Gaudettes farther ahead

Vesey draft+3 year = 58 points in 37 games
Gaudette draft+2 year = 52 points in 37 games

Fair chance Gaudette signs after the ncaa season and he's in a canucks uniform for some games in late March

 

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In case you guys are curious (I have a subscription with the Athletic), here are Wheeler's other rankings (3rd best prospect and best of the rest):

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I think Gaudettes farther ahead

Vesey draft+3 year = 58 points in 37 games
Gaudette draft+2 year = 52 points in 37 games

Fair chance Gaudette signs after the ncaa season and he's in a canucks uniform for some games in late March

Eh. Both were drafted as over-agers in their draft years, both were the same age during the comparison season give or take a few months. Post-draft doesn't mean much into their early 20's for me.

Guess we'll find out when they call him up.

 

[tducey]

Thanks for sharing this. I thought Dermott might rank higher than that on a Toronto prospects list though.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I don't know who Jeremey Bracco has pictures of but I certainly don't get the hype around this guy. Call me crazy but I'd take several Sens (and a couple Leafs) prospects that aren't listed here over Bracco.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Eh. Both were drafted as over-agers in their draft years, both were the same age during the comparison season give or take a few months. Post-draft doesn't mean much into their early 20's for me.

Guess we'll find out when they call him up.

give or take over a year lol

gaudette put up 52 points as a 20 year old
vesey put up 58 points as a 21 year old (and turned 22 2 months after the season was over)

 

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My main takeaway from Wheeler's article is that the Oilers are still in deep shit even with McJesus. They still have to give Darnell Nurse a significant raise and have to decide if they want to keep Maroon. The Oilers prospect pool looks pretty bleak after Yamamoto and to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with his play at the recent WJHC tourney. They can't draft well aside from lottery picks (and let's be honest, any of us could have made those selections).

 

[jstewismybastardson]

gaudettes college coach (biased of course) in the cesspool just compared Gaudette to Kesler ... without the head snap and philandering ways i hope lol

/this post brought to you by poonerman

 

[KennyBanyeah]

My main takeaway from Wheeler's article is that the Oilers are still in deep shit even with McJesus. They still have to give Darnell Nurse a significant raise and have to decide if they want to keep Maroon. The Oilers prospect pool looks pretty bleak after Yamamoto and to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with his play at the recent WJHC tourney. They can't draft well aside from lottery picks (and let's be honest, any of us could have made those selections).

That's the kicker. They rarely get a quality player outside of the 1st round. A lot of it is luck but to NEVER get any players later in the draft is beyond bad luck. Their scouting sucks. Period.

 

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Eric Lindros will have his #88 raised to the rafters in Philly tonight. Good for the Big E and congrats.

 

[forty_three]

My main takeaway from Wheeler's article is that the Oilers are still in deep shit even with McJesus. They still have to give Darnell Nurse a significant raise and have to decide if they want to keep Maroon. The Oilers prospect pool looks pretty bleak after Yamamoto and to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with his play at the recent WJHC tourney. They can't draft well aside from lottery picks (and let's be honest, any of us could have made those selections).

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Sid rock lol

 

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That's good hockey hair.