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Discussion in 'Washington Redskins' started by Krusheasy, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. Sharkinva

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    ONe thing I found very interesting from todays edition of kangaroo court..

    They had reports months before the election that Russia had reached out to Trump to offer to help influence the election, and that the FBI made sure that information didnt get out before the election happened. If Stzok was so dead set to end a Trump win, dropping that bomb a month before the election might have changed things... then again probably not.
     



  2. skinsdad62

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    look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this . i dont buy what you are saying . i buy you believe what you are saying is conservative but i dont buy it as it is
     
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    what reports ? where ?
     
  4. Sharkinva

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    Did you actually WATCH it?? The man testified under oath that the FBI started this probe because they had recieved reports months before the election that there was contact between the Russians and Trumps camp about dirt on HIllary.

    Now as Mueller is actually not leaking much, Im willing to let the man do his job and complete this probe.. .are you?
     
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    i think 2 years is long enough dont you ? if he had anything on trump personally it would have already been leaked or out in the open by now

    and the mueller , comey , strozk page rosenstein click doesnt convince me of any fairness at all i see plainly a cover up of HRC's crimes and made up crap by biased fbi political hacks
     
  6. Sharkinva

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    Actually its been 13 months. And 5 guilty pleas, another 19 indictments, and three upcoming trials.


    Benghazi took two years and came up with bupkus, HIllarys emails took two years and also came up with BUpkus.

    NOw look I hope they wrap it up and actually find nothing. I would feel a little less leary knowing the president is just a liar who cheated on multiple wives. That beats a liar, cheat and treasonous bastard in my book.

    Mueller and Comey are Republicans appointed by Trump, you do know this right?? As is Rosenstien.


    I agree there is a coverup.. its called the Senate and Trump and his associates. IM willing to buy Trump did nothing, but I think his boys, and his son in law might have some problems.
     
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    Benghazi took 13 months and the truth came out about the video not being the cause. The truth came out that HRC didn’t supply the defense needed that was requested in the weeks leading up to Benghazi. Was there an investigation of an actual crime?

    Hillary’s emails should have led to a felony charge. Comey even wrote it up as such. Obama got him to change the wording. Comey admitted her guilt in front of the world. Since when did intent become a requirement for a crime? This is why the FBI is questionable to start.

    Comey was not appointed by Trump. He was retained to continue his 10 year term. Considering the issues Trump has had, in unprecedented fashion, of getting his appointees approved, it made sense.

    Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein...not Trump.

    You are correct on Rosenstein. 1 out of 3 is pretty bad when you were being condescending to Dad in the statement.

    Again...where is the crime?
     
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    5 guilty pleas, 2 pending trials and 19 indictments isnt enough for you?? Something tells me, if they were done, this would have been wrapped up already.

    I get it, the sooner they can kill this, the better for Trump and the Republican party.

    Sorry if I seem to be OK with them being diligent on this thing. Because this isnt just a question of if some one laundered money.
     
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    I didn't say what i said here is conservative. I said that i am a conservative.

    Instead of accepting that you have either completely misread everything i wrote or blatantly lied about everything i wrote while avoiding any direct questions or criticisms of your points. And now you'll finally duck out and act like ahh we just couldn't see eye to eye. *shrug* you do you.
     
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    Id love to hear an explanation of why and how Mueller is a hack whos leading a witch hunt and just out to get Trump.
     
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    Mueller isnt a REAL Republican.

    If he was, he would be following HIllary and proving she emailed Nuclear Sub plans and locations to Putin. Oh and that Obama knew and signed off on it.

    #LockThemUp
     
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    What are the charges?

    Again, is collusion illegal?

    Again, shouldn’t we question the FBI when it is apparent they did not do their job in prosecuting Hillary when they admit she broke the law?
     
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    Trump telling Comey to stop the investigation of Flynn would be Obstruction of Justice and possibly Abuse of Power. Two no no's for a sitting President.

    No one has been charged with this yet. BUt if thats the case, are you willing to let it slide because you "Like his policies"??

    And sounds to me like you are willing to sacrifice the FBI in order to save the President. Apparently so are some members of the Senate if todays proceedings are any indication.
     
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    Bank fraud and collusion are very different crimes when not related to the charge of collusion. Yes Mueller has indicted people but not for anything related to collusion. I understand a crime is a crime but it is not what the special investigator was assigned to do. We will see, we all knew the Russians were meddling in our elections as well as others. Don't look for that to stop based on today's technology. It is not just the Russians …. this is going on worldwide.
     
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    Thus the word...fishing.
     
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    Actually he was assigned to look into Russian Meddling in our election. As a Special Investigator he does have the authority to look into other crimes that may be discovered while he continues looking into the election tampering situation.

    Call it a fishing trip if you like, but he is within the realm of what he has been tasked to do. And picking Party politics over the country is the only reason someone would call it a fishing expedition.
     
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    I hope you're not mistaking being a republican automatically makes you a conservative. I'll admit i don't read your 10 paragraph posts, but what I do read sounds more like the liberals I occasionally watch on msnbc
     
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    Well, let’s look at the original charge against Flynn, or what they were Logan Act. While he was technically not part of the government, he was a part of the president elects team. Nobody has ever been convicted and only one person has ever been indicted. Did Flynn lie? That too is debatable, but he did plead guilty.

    Did Trump actually obstruct Justice? There is no credible evidence he did. Comey kept memos? Is Comey not a known liar and political hack? Yes he is. Is it obstruction to ask Comey to drop the investigation because the investigation was about the Logan Act? Again, every president elect team discusses foreign policy before they actually take office. It allows them to hit the ground running.

    So both Obstruction and abuse of power are BS.

    It depends on the evidence. If I believe Trump is actually guilty, then yes, I want him to fry. I hate corruption.

    I am willing to sacrifice the FBI, or the bosses, because it looks to me like they deserve it. They tried to sway the election and for me, that is worse than colluding with foreign countries to win an election. Foreign countries have no allegiance to the US...the FBI took an oath of impartiality. It sure looks like they have failed that oath...at least Comey, Stroyk, and his ho.
     
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    I will simply touch on this. The FACT is, they did every thing they could to NOT sway the election. Up to and including making sure no hint of the Russia Probe went out until AFTER the election was done and over with. If they really wanted to sway the election against Trump,

    1. They would not have let leak that the email probe of Clinton had been reopened two weeks before the election.

    2. They would have leaked the Russia Probe at or around the same time frame.

    So the reality is, they did their job. They didnt try to taint the election when they could have. And yesterday was a pathetic attempt at getting that a Few Good Men moment out of Peter Strozk. I guess its too bad they still havent proved his Bias was some sort of conspiracy against Trump. I will give them an A+ for effort though.
     
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    If they did their job, Hillary would have been arrested before the election, because there was evidence to actually arrest her.

    As for the Russia probe, it isn’t illegal for a foreign country to interfere with our election. Why are they investigating non-crimes?

    Strozyk has obvious bias and we know it affected his job.