No deadline set for Coyotes possible move

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Jeff Fillion has released a bombshell this morning on Radio X waves by stating that Quebecor refused to buy the Arizona Coyotes since the price was too high.

It's Maxime Truman blog Danslescoulisses who shared information Fillion on social networks, the latter claiming that the leaders of Quebecor had the opportunity to buy the Coyotes before the expansion process of the NHL.

We could have hockey in Quebec now, but Pierre Dion would have preferred to refuse the offer of Gary Bettman due to the high price asked by the Commissioner of the League.

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No way Quebec ever gets an expansion franchise. Ever.

 

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No way Quebec ever gets an expansion franchise. Ever.

The Quebec Nord-Panthers has a nice ring to it...

 

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The Quebec Nord-Panthers has a nice ring to it...

They could promise to name it the Quebec "Bettman is our hero"s and they aren't getting a franchise.

They had a chance to bail out the league's biggest money drain and didn't? Will never, ever get approved.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

They could promise to name it the Quebec "Bettman is our hero"s and they aren't getting a franchise.

They had a chance to bail out the league's biggest money drain and didn't? Will never, ever get approved.

is there any other potential ownership group in a potential nhl city willing to give bettman any money ... like ... at all ??? lol

we know Quebec is there ... as the kids say ... who got next? ... Bueller ??? Bueller ????

 

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is there any other potential ownership group in a potential nhl city willing to give bettman any money ... like ... at all ??? lol

we know Quebec is there ... as the kids say ... who got next? ... Bueller ??? Bueller ????

Nope, can't think of anybody else - If the report is true that Bettman nixed the deal for the Coyotes because he wanted a king's ransom, that could be interesting in a couple of years when the escape clause kicks in.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Worth noting that if Bettman asked QC to buy the Coyotes, he likely asked and was rebuffed by buyers from Seattle too and I doubt Bettman can afford to be vindictive to two of the most attractive markets without NHL clubs without pissing off owners sick of supporting failing franchises via revenue sharing.

 

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Worth noting that if Bettman asked QC to buy the Coyotes, he likely asked and was rebuffed by buyers from Seattle too and I doubt Bettman can afford to be vindictive to two of the most attractive markets without NHL clubs without pissing off owners sick of supporting failing franchises via revenue sharing.

He could always try Kansas City.

Provided the governor is not still pissed off at Mario and soured on hockey altogether.

 

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He could always try Kansas City.

Provided the governor is not still pissed off at Mario and soured on hockey altogether.

As for Kansas City, when expansion applications were extended last summer, Hunt called the NHL’s $500 million price tag for a franchise “ridiculously big” and said it wasn’t on his radar. The same seemingly can be said of whether there is any local oomph to try to secure a restless franchise, a route that has failed a few times already.

Lost City of Bettman - For Kansas City Hockey Fans: Lamar Hunt Close to Bringing USHL to Overland Park

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

As for Kansas City, when expansion applications were extended last summer, Hunt called the NHL’s $500 million price tag for a franchise “ridiculously big” and said it wasn’t on his radar. The same seemingly can be said of whether there is any local oomph to try to secure a restless franchise, a route that has failed a few times already.

Lost City of Bettman - For Kansas City Hockey Fans: Lamar Hunt Close to Bringing USHL to Overland Park

That's pretty much it right there. I don't understand how they can justify asking $500M for a new franchise when the majority of existing teams, including some excellent and/or comparable markets, aren't worth that according to Forbes.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Worth noting that if Bettman asked QC to buy the Coyotes, he likely asked and was rebuffed by buyers from Seattle too and I doubt Bettman can afford to be vindictive to two of the most attractive markets without NHL clubs without pissing off owners sick of supporting failing franchises via revenue sharing.

would the ask have even gotten to the price stage though? where were they gonna play? There were intriguing out of the blue discussions (at the time) of renovating Key Arena

 

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That's pretty much it right there. I don't understand how they can justify asking $500M for a new franchise when the majority of existing teams, including some excellent and/or comparable markets, aren't worth that according to Forbes.

It is profoundly stupid of anyone to agree to an expansion fee that is higher than the actual value of all but 11 teams. And when the top 11 are all original 6 and 60s and 70s expansion teams. The two most recent expansion teams are worth half the fee. Anyone who's been past Economics 101 would know better.

It's quite.... a gamble.

 

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It's quite.... a gamble.

Are you saying a Foley and his money are soon parted?

 

[forty_three]

Are you saying a Foley and his money are soon parted?

Not only that, if you want to join the family, you gotta pay your dues.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

would the ask have even gotten to the price stage though? where were they gonna play? There were intriguing out of the blue discussions (at the time) of renovating Key Arena

I assume it would be Key until a new barn fell from the sky.

I think Bettman would've been fine with that for a few years in order to break into maybe the only untapped major market on the continent that can support hockey.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

It is profoundly stupid of anyone to agree to an expansion fee that is higher than the actual value of all but 11 teams. And when the top 11 are all original 6 and 60s and 70s expansion teams. The two most recent expansion teams are worth half the fee. Anyone who's been past Economics 101 would know better.

It's quite.... a gamble.

Anyone in QC only needs to look to Winnipeg as a good example too. You've got a comparably sized, hockey-crazy market, both with brand new arenas and both with almost exact histories as it related to their old franchises.

And yet Winnipeg is currently valued at $350M. I could see paying something of a premium on that - say $400M, but an extra $150M is outrageous.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Anyone in QC only needs to look to Winnipeg as a good example too. You've got a comparably sized, hockey-crazy market, both with brand new arenas and both with almost exact histories as it related to their old franchises.

And yet Winnipeg is currently valued at $350M. I could see paying something of a premium on that - say $400M, but an extra $150M is outrageous.

There's a few things the league could see as positives for owners that have happened since 2011 - local TV contracts are worth much more (Quebecor owns TVA so they would be benefitting from that via ad revenue the way TSN and SN do with the Leafs), the current national broadcasting deals means more automatic revenue right off the bat, ditto for the new Adidas sponsorship, balanced conferences has reduced the amount teams spend on travel costs...

Of course, the Canadian dollar has also plummeted since then, the 2012 lockout reduced the percentage of HRR that goes to the owners, the league is being sued by almost everybody who has ever laced it up and their grandchildren due to concussions that almost assuredly won't go the league's way and will result in a massive settlement, non-playing staff size continues to grow as things like analytics and speciality coaching become ever-more important.

I think you were right on the money, $400 mil seems like a pretty fair total fee.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Someone take this team please lol

 

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Report: Coyotes toured arenas in Seattle and Portland

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Coyotes Reaffirm Their Commitment to Arizona

GLENDALE, ARIZONA --- Arizona Coyotes President and CEO Anthony LeBlanc issued the following statement today regarding recent Glendale Star reports.

"Recent reports by the Glendale Star that the Coyotes ownership group has explored arena options outside the Arizona market are completely false. The Star referenced an anonymous arena source and an anonymous Coyotes source, and these are a fabrication.

"The Coyotes are focused on creating one of the most taxpayer friendly facilities in the country here in the Valley. This new arena will pay for itself, create jobs and generate millions of dollars of revenue for the state, county and municipality where it's built. We are fully committed to Arizona.

FAKE NEWS!

 

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"The President is focused on creating one of the most taxpayer friendly facilities in the country here in the Valley. This new wall will pay for itself, create jobs and generate millions of dollars of revenue for the state, county and municipality where it's built. We are fully committed to Arizona.

Hey folks, it's Anthony Spicer.