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Putting this up for us to talk up the draft both Dolphins and entire NFL

In no particular order: Hooker, Peppers, Lamp, Njoku, Taco Charlton, Reuben Foster , are the guys I would like the Fins to take with their first pick if one of them is available when we pick. Based on need, Lamp, Hooker/Peppers would lead
 

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Putting this up for us to talk up the draft both Dolphins and entire NFL

In no particular order: Hooker, Peppers, Lamp, Njoku, Taco Charlton, Reuben Foster , are the guys I would like the Fins to take with their first pick if one of them is available when we pick. Based on need, Lamp, Hooker/Peppers would lead
Peppers just tested positive diluted sample and so did Foster. I would take one of those guys if they traded back and received more picks to have some insurance otherwise stay away let the boys have them.

I don't think S is the biggest need since they signed McDonald and Allen. I would take a stud at any position no doubt you can't go wrong BPA but LB, OG, DE and DT are higher on my list as they could all start or rotate in immediately.
 

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We went out of our way in the past 4 months to make sure we got 3 TE's on the roster, not including Duarte.

Njoku seems far-fetched right now.
 

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We went out of our way in the past 4 months to make sure we got 3 TE's on the roster, not including Duarte.

Njoku seems far-fetched right now.

My thinking for listing a TE and Njoku in particular is because he is a Cane - And, yes we have Thomas, Fasano,Duarte and the 4th guy whose name escapes me often - but Thomas and Fasano are up there in age and have injury history - the other guys are young and unproven - Njoku is a freak of nature who they can groom further and have as a serious weapon.

I listed Peppers with the thinking we use him in a safety role either to pair with RJ or replace him down the line.

IMO, there are some good prospects at all positions of need for the Fins - at least they should have a nice looking top 10 list for each of those positions - they couldn't go wrong with any of them.
 

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I don't think the Fins have the luxury of picking Njoku (although he's an impact player).

I think the Fins will have a choice of either 3 or 4 of the top LBs (if they decide to pick a LB first) Multiple LBs aren't usually drafted in the top 25. It could happen but it's unlikely. There is a chance Foster will be there at 22. It's more likely that Reddick, Cunningham, and Davis will be available. A few thoughts on the top LBs.

Foster a thumper that can deliver the big hit and makes lots of plays. I think he's worth the risk at 22. An earlier pick would be an even greater risk for an organization.

Reddick is a natural talent but he will need more time to learn to be a OLB. I think he could be a pass rush specialist at DE however the Fins got steamrolled last year by opponents' run game. I don't see how he helps that area for the Fins. That said, with good coaching he has a high ceiling.

Cunningham He's a plug and play run stuffer. He's a natural LB with proven production. He's be a solid pick at 22.

Davis he makes less of an impact than these other guys plus he's had some injury issues already.
 

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I just can't see Foster being taken by us in the first round after the Dion Jordan debacle.

Another thought, 3 players I really don't want to see in the AFC East: Fournette, Cook, and Howard.
 

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I just can't see Foster being taken by us in the first round after the Dion Jordan debacle.

Jordan was drafted based mostly on potential not production. Whereas Foster has proven to be a playmaker.

Another thought, 3 players I really don't want to see in the AFC East: Fournette, Cook, and Howard.

Those guys will be gone before the Pats pick but the other teams could pick one of them.
 

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My guess is the Fins pick a DE early. It makes sense because Wake is an older player (although highly productive) and Branch has been average at best. I understand the logic but what I have seen is Brady doesn't usually have too much of a problem with edge rushers. He just steps up in the pocket and makes his quick throws. I think a team has to be able to get pressure up the middle against the Pats. Hopefully, the Fins add the right talent or I think we can expect much of the same results. Perhaps a versatile DE/OLB player could be the right choice for getting to the QB.
 

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Armando Salguero of the herald is reporting it , so you kinda have to wipe your ass with it, but - thinking is that the Fins aren't as high on Forrest Lamp as first thought

DE may in fact be the pick
 

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I'm not sure why Miami wouldn't be into Lamp. He fills the biggest need on the team and there's nothing not to like with him as a prospect. He could be gone by #16, though.
 

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I'm not sure why Miami wouldn't be into Lamp. He fills the biggest need on the team and there's nothing not to like with him as a prospect. He could be gone by #16, though.
I think LB is the biggest need because otherwise Misi could be a starter...enough said. LB is a money position OG isn't and how many first round picks should you invest in your oline? LB is also getting old need some young blood. I would be ok with LB in the second round if a stud falls to them then go BPA or trade back.
 

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I'm not sure why Miami wouldn't be into Lamp. He fills the biggest need on the team and there's nothing not to like with him as a prospect. He could be gone by #16, though.

He says it comes down to a philosophy of not wanting to spend big money on interior linemen.
 

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I think there will be serviceable OGs to be picked in the 2nd round. Also maybe the Fins OGs are a little better than we give them credit for especially when the starters are healthy. That said, Lamp manhandled J Allen of Bama. That usually doesn't happen. He's got that unique mix of strength, movement, and technique. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him picked at 22 but I doubt it happens.

D Feeney isn't a mauler but he's a very solid talent from what I have seen. He can create a running lane and he gets to the 2nd level very well. He seems to be good enough against the bull rush. If he is there in the 2nd round he could be a good choice.
 

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He says it comes down to a philosophy of not wanting to spend big money on interior linemen.

Which is why we didn't spend the money in FA.

We'd have him for 5 years on the cheap.
 
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I think LB is the biggest need because otherwise Misi could be a starter...enough said. LB is a money position OG isn't and how many first round picks should you invest in your oline? LB is also getting old need some young blood. I would be ok with LB in the second round if a stud falls to them then go BPA or trade back.

I think we got enough people on defense, with Hull and Hewitt being serviceable in situations, and we won't have 3 LB's on the field for over half the defense snaps. We paid Timmons a bunch of money for 2 seasons, and we could see Reshad Jones play closer like a LB sometimes, esp. with the signings of McDonald, Allen, and bringing back Michael Thomas. I think Miami is up to something in that regard.

Whereas, if we went into the season with what we have on the OL, it'd be like rowing a boat with a hole in it.

With all that being said, I still think it's likely we take a OLB/DE in the 1st round, but it just wouldn't be as logical to me as a safe, high-end LG prospect.
 
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We'd have him for 5 years on the cheap.

Same deal regardless of the position, so if you can take an impact player that plays at a typically higher dollar position, it is a greater value to the team.
 

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Same deal regardless of the position, so if you can take an impact player that plays at a typically higher dollar position, it is a greater value to the team.
Bingo and you fet that 5th year of cheap for a more expensive position. OG is expensive at 9 M while DE is going for 18 M...see Vernon. That's why it makes economic sense to go LB, DE or even DT. But at the same time I wouldn't be pissed at taking Lamp although I'd rather trade back and get extra picks to fill every hole and add depth. Guys like Watt, Cunningham even Lamp may still be there later in the first at least one of them will be when they pick. Mayock just had Watt at 22 but I bet he would be there 7 picks later....
 

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I agree with everything everyone is saying, but I think Lamp would be a bust-proof player, whereas you might have a ?mark here and there about some of these defensive prospects. And Lamp would basically be on the field for every snap on his side of the ball for the next five years.
 

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I agree with everything everyone is saying, but I think Lamp would be a bust-proof player, whereas you might have a ?mark here and there about some of these defensive prospects. And Lamp would basically be on the field for every snap on his side of the ball for the next five years.

I think Oline coaches make a big difference. When Dante Scarnecchia coaches the Pats Brady seldom gets touched by defensive players. When he took a break from coaching there was a big difference in pressure on Brady. If the Fins choose to not invest in a top OG they will need to coach really well.
 

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Putting this up for us to talk up the draft both Dolphins and entire NFL

In no particular order: Hooker, Peppers, Lamp, Njoku, Taco Charlton, Reuben Foster , are the guys I would like the Fins to take with their first pick if one of them is available when we pick. Based on need, Lamp, Hooker/Peppers would lead
Peppers tested positive for a banned substance.
 
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