Montalban's Official Bitch About tHe Warriors Superthread

[logic]

It is amazing that you can still hitch about every small detail even in a 17 point win over the Spurs. You wouldn't be content with a 150-0 victory if the Warriors gave up a single rebound.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm shocked at the level of effort the Warriors are putting in on Defense tonight. Nice to see.

They probably read this thread and didn't want to disappoint you anymore.

 

[tlance]

I'm shocked at the level of effort the Warriors are putting in on Defense tonight. Nice to see.

Hey, what do you know?

The Warriors are an elite defensive team when they want to be. Something that literally everyone here has been telling you. Yet, you want them to wear themselves out by grinding through meaningless games.

The Warriors regular season goal is to win as many games as possible with as little effort as possible, then gear up for the playoff run.

 

[Montalban]

Hey, what do you know?

The Warriors are an elite defensive team when they want to be. Something that literally everyone here has been telling you. Yet, you want them to wear themselves out by grinding through meaningless games.

The Warriors regular season goal is to win as many games as possible with as little effort as possible, then gear up for the playoff run.

Meaningless? They've lost their entire advantage for home court with their lackadaisical play. If Houston gets home court, look out.

 

[CitySushi]

Meaningless? They've lost their entire advantage for home court with their lackadaisical play. If Houston gets home court, look out.

Tbh it’s not much of a home court advantage anymore. They’ve not been that dominant at home this year and really the crowd is to blame as well. You have a ton of the rabid fans priced out and the crowd seems way more tame. Oracle used to be 100/100 during the 14-15 season. Now it’s about 85/100 being generous.

 

[Montalban]

Tbh it’s not much of a home court advantage anymore. They’ve not been that dominant at home this year and really the crowd is to blame as well. You have a ton of the rabid fans priced out and the crowd seems way more tame. Oracle used to be 100/100 during the 14-15 season. Now it’s about 85/100 being generous.

Hmmm. I guarantee you that the Warriors disagree. To a man, I bet they want to play at home.

 

[CitySushi]

Hmmm. I guarantee you that the Warriors disagree. To a man, I bet they want to play at home.

Well it's obvious the Warriors or any team would love to have home court advantage. All I was saying is that the advantage of the home crowd isn't what it used to be. The importance of it is not nearly as important as it was back in 14-15. It is still important though.

 

[Montalban]

Well it's obvious the Warriors or any team would love to have home court advantage. All I was saying is that the advantage of the home crowd isn't what it used to be. The importance of it is not nearly as important as it was back in 14-15. It is still important though.

That's true. Perhaps in the playoffs it will be; as long as they get it that is. I think they've fallen behind Houston?

 

[CitySushi]

That's true. Perhaps in the playoffs it will be; as long as they get it that is. I think they've fallen behind Houston?

Possibly, and potentially other teams as well in terms of a home court advantage. Along with the pricing out the "true" fans, there's also a fatigue that comes with greatness. It's the reason all of the greatest players in NBA history haven't continually won the MVP awards. You get used to it and come to expect it rather than appreciate it. I remember the last game I went to recently, Curry did a cross over and a step back 3 and nailed it. I jumped up out of my seat but maybe only 1/4 of the other fans around me did too. In 14-15, when I went to a game it was a standing O for that play.

I'm with you in hoping that it changes in the playoffs. But I'm really not expecting any huge difference.

 

[Montalban]

Possibly, and potentially other teams as well in terms of a home court advantage. Along with the pricing out the "true" fans, there's also a fatigue that comes with greatness. It's the reason all of the greatest players in NBA history haven't continually won the MVP awards. You get used to it and come to expect it rather than appreciate it. I remember the last game I went to recently, Curry did a cross over and a step back 3 and nailed it. I jumped up out of my seat but maybe only 1/4 of the other fans around me did too. In 14-15, when I went to a game it was a standing O for that play.

I'm with you in hoping that it changes in the playoffs. But I'm really not expecting any huge difference.

I hear you. We went to a game in Oakland last year against the Wizards and it cost us 1,700 dollars for 10 tickets and we were up top. Its a shame.

 

[msgkings322]

I hear you. We went to a game in Oakland last year against the Wizards and it cost us 1,700 dollars for 10 tickets and we were up top. Its a shame.

Capitalism is a shame?

 

[CitySushi]

Capitalism is a shame?

In this situation as a consumer, yes I'm on Monty's side.

Tickets I had 6 years ago costed about 80 bucks a pop. Now they're going for 300+ each depending on the opponent. I went from having Season tickets yearly, to splitting them with others, to then only being able to afford a few games a year. I'm not complaining, I love the success of the team, it's just I have to enjoy it now more from my living room.

 

[Montalban]

Capitalism is a shame?

Yes. It takes away the game from the average Joe by pricing themselves out of the market. This way you get the "opera glasses and golf clap" crowd instead of the fired up Warriors backers who were there when things were bad.

 

[msgkings322]

In this situation as a consumer, yes I'm on Monty's side.

Tickets I had 6 years ago costed about 80 bucks a pop. Now they're going for 300+ each depending on the opponent. I went from having Season tickets yearly, to splitting them with others, to then only being able to afford a few games a year. I'm not complaining, I love the success of the team, it's just I have to enjoy it now more from my living room.

I get it, believe me, but are sports tickets the only area where we should limit prices? What about Rolling Stones tickets? Disneyland? Should we cap how much owners can charge and the income players can earn?

I guess my point is, we're all free market capitalists except when it comes to sports.

 

[msgkings322]

Yes. It takes away the game from the average Joe by pricing themselves out of the market. This way you get the "opera glasses and golf clap" crowd instead of the fired up Warriors backers who were there when things were bad.

Go back to Russia you commie! Plenty of cheap seats at the Moscow hockey games.

 

[CitySushi]

I get it, believe me, but are sports tickets the only area where we should limit prices? What about Rolling Stones tickets? Disneyland? Should we cap how much owners can charge and the income players can earn?

I guess my point is, we're all free market capitalists except when it comes to sports.

Please don't try to turn this into some sort of socialist argument. That's not what I'm saying at all.

You can agree with capitalism, and yet not be a fan when it affects you. I wouldn't want the Warriors to change their plans because everything they do has a reaction. It's not like they're paying the players peanuts and avoiding a luxury tax and then hike up prices on the fans. The market is the market.

Just saying as a fan I have to be more judicious with how many games I can attend these days. I can realistically only attend 1 of every 4 or 5 that I used to in the past. I could get away with getting great lower bowl tickets for 160 a pair. Now I'll be lucky to have those same tickets for 700.

That also has a direct impact on the level or type of fan you get at the arena too. It has a trickle down effect too on your experience at the arena.

 

[msgkings322]

Please don't try to turn this into some sort of socialist argument. That's not what I'm saying at all.

You can agree with capitalism, and yet not be a fan when it affects you. I wouldn't want the Warriors to change their plans because everything they do has a reaction. It's not like they're paying the players peanuts and avoiding a luxury tax and then hike up prices on the fans. The market is the market.

Just saying as a fan I have to be more judicious with how many games I can attend these days. I can realistically only attend 1 of every 4 or 5 that I used to in the past. I could get away with getting great lower bowl tickets for 160 a pair. Now I'll be lucky to have those same tickets for 700.

That also has a direct impact on the level or type of fan you get at the arena too. It has a trickle down effect too on your experience at the arena.

I agree with all of this, but it's kind of just how it works. And yet another reason teams can't win 4-5 titles in a row, the real fans get priced out and bye bye home court advantage.

 

[LAD]

Hmmm. I guarantee you that the Warriors disagree. To a man, I bet they want to play at home.

Probably nice to be home, however, they're an EXCELLENT road team this season too. So, having home court advantage is probably a moot point.

 

[The Derski]

Try to take it easy on the Suns tonight.

An 8:30 start time is ridiculous by the way. That’s 7:30 local time which is still pretty late.

 

[Montalban]

I get it, believe me, but are sports tickets the only area where we should limit prices? What about Rolling Stones tickets? Disneyland? Should we cap how much owners can charge and the income players can earn?

I guess my point is, we're all free market capitalists except when it comes to sports.

Not just sports. I went to an Eagles concert on the eve of the millenuium and tickets were goping for 500.00 to 5,000.00 and the crowd it brought in was repulsive. Ladies in gowns and men in tuxedos and they were actually shushing us during the concert. Can you believe getting shushed during a rock concert? It brings in the wrong people, the self-important, entitled crowd. It was sickening