Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by MAIZEandBLUE09, Nov 21, 2017.
Really? Who was our talented QB?
Alot of teams are a play away from something. That was an elite team in 2016. One that I still think underperformed, relative to expectation and experience on that roster. And last year's team was the fluffiest 8 win team ever. He's still only beaten 4 ranked teams during the regular season in his 3 seasons.
Well he got rudock as a grad transfer. But it is kind of his fault he didn't have a great QB in place by 2016, and 2017. Thankfully for him Ole Miss went up in flames and he'll have a good QB or he'd be going into year 4 without a proven, good QB.
LOL 2 games wouldn't have made any sort of difference. You haven't finished higher than 3rd in the division.
Some meeeechegan fans still insist Jimmy Jam's on the same CFB coaching level as Meyer & Saban because of what he did in the NFL. Ask your pal trustme about it. He'll break it all down for you.
And yes he has been a failure so far. Does he have a winning record against Ohio State or Michigan State? Has he won his division? Has he won the conference? Tressel entering his 4th year won a Natty & 2 Fiesta Bowls. Meyer in his 2nd year @ Utah went undefeated. His 2nd year @ Florida he won a Natty. By the end of his 4th year he won a 2nd Natty. And in his 3rd year in Columbus he won a Natty. Saban in his 3rd year @ Bama won a Natty.
Harbaugh's a damn good HC. But w/ his incomplete CFB coaching resume he can't be called one of the 2 or 3 best coaches in the country right now.
Hoke lost to teams like Minnesota, Indiana and Maryland. There's just no comparing the two.
I thought he was the QB whisperer? It’s almost like they fired Hoke for a reason. I mean, doesn’t every single coach walk into two top ten classes? How dare Hoke not have an NFL ready QB for Harbaugh. He had NFL wide receivers, Tight ends, and then there was a top ten defense just sitting there for him. Are you really trying to say that Beilein walked into a better situation than Harbaugh did?
Yup. You guys had the best D in the country that year and were two wins away from the playoffs. It will be interesting to see what you do with Shea at QB.
Harbaugh is fine. People love to hate on michigan, myself included, but everyone is overlooking the fact he is coaching in arguably the toughest division in CFB right now. He will be fine at um if he doesn’t decide to head back to the NFL.
The problem is, you're comparing success goals in taking over an extremely healthy OSU program to success goals in taking over a broken Michigan program. Of course Urban was able to do well quickly. Not counting Fickel, Urban took over a program that was already winning 11+ games a year. The guy before him got fired for other things not performance things. It's unreasonable to compare the timelines.
Wouldn’t it be fair to compare with what Saban walked into at Alabama?
Sure, except for the fact that Saban is arguably the best college football coach at any point in history.....and Alabama is smack dab in the center of a modern recruiting hotbed.
Coaching against a bunch of other teams in the modern recruiting hotbed. Harbaugh walked into a conference that doesn’t recruit for shit save one team and is at one of the top ten easiest programs to recruit at in any conference in the United States and was given the head start of two top ten recruiting classes while no other team in the conference had one top ten class except Ohio State.
So it's not really that unreasonable that we finished 3rd in the conference twice. We were just 1 off our recruiting rank standing in the conference.
Except you finished third in the division not the conference. Iowa was better than you in 2015 and you were like 6th or 7th in the conference last year.
Yeah, but everyone knows western division teams don't count. Iowa faced literally no one that year. In the regular season they missed Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan....
Um....that's just blatantly false. If Michigan beats OSU in 2016, they finish 1st in the division....
He also beat Ohio State.
Did they though? No, so that's an L for Harbaugh.
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