MBBRL Suicide League A vs. B Challenge

[Ritzarmy]

According to the Fantasy Pros grading (which Bandit originally posted on each respective draft thread), here is the combined scores of both the A and B in one list.

1006 - Fuzzy
955 - Lefty
911 - Bandit
907 (tie) tlance and Monkey
904 - Trudem
887 - TKO
873 - BK
868 - Sam
867 - Stomp
858 - Femurov
844 - Face
837 - Harold
830 - Treff
826 - Ritzarmy
825 - Joe
821 - Barilko
780 - Milk
747 - Steelers Pride
746 - Shady
740 - Ram
709 - OBX
682 - Foot

See that @Barilko im kicking your ass by a massive 5pts. Be afraid very afraid.

 

[TREFF]

As one of if not the first of us to use Fantasy Pros I have to ask @Bandit a stupid question: When you ran the teams, did you input our starting roster requirements? I'm sure you did I'm just asking is all...........didn't think I would be that high but when I look at the teams damn near all the A league is front of me. Thank God for Foot though..........................

According to the Fantasy Pros grading (which Bandit originally posted on each respective draft thread), here is the combined scores of both the A and B in one list.

1006 - Fuzzy
955 - Lefty
911 - Bandit
907 (tie) tlance and Monkey
904 - Trudem
887 - TKO
873 - BK
868 - Sam
867 - Stomp
858 - Femurov
844 - Face
837 - Harold
830 - Treff
826 - Ritzarmy
825 - Joe
821 - Barilko
780 - Milk
747 - Steelers Pride
746 - Shady
740 - Ram
709 - OBX
682 - Foot

So fantasy Pros consensus of 26 "experts", still has Blount as RB 30, with a high of 12, and a low of 56...obviously their rankings/ predictions still aren't entirely updated since he signed, no one in their right mind is placing any starting RB at 56, and who knows how many experts still have him that low, dragging down the average. Do this a month from now, I'll be climbing the charts. . Me And whomever has him in B

 

[SoShady]

So fantasy Pros consensus of 26 "experts", still has Blount as RB 30, with a high of 12, and a low of 56...obviously their rankings/ predictions still aren't entirely updated since he signed, no one in their right mind is placing any starting RB at 56, and who knows how many experts still have him that low, dragging down the average. Do this a month from now, I'll be climbing the charts. . Me And whomever has him in B

That would be me.

 

[Bandit]

So fantasy Pros consensus of 26 "experts", still has Blount as RB 30, with a high of 12, and a low of 56...obviously their rankings/ predictions still aren't entirely updated since he signed, no one in their right mind is placing any starting RB at 56, and who knows how many experts still have him that low, dragging down the average. Do this a month from now, I'll be climbing the charts. . Me And whomever has him in B

I could be wrong (it certainly wouldn't be the first time), but I really see him finishing the season as a RB3 around 25th. The same opportunities just aren't going to be there for him that were there in New England and it's always tough to back up a good touchdown year with another one, so if he gets to double digits in touchdowns it will surprise me. I'm seeing more like a 720 yards and 8 touchdowns, maybe 10 catches for 100 yards and a touchdown kind of year which would be 136 points putting him right where the #25 running back would have been last year.

 

[TREFF]

I could be wrong (it certainly wouldn't be the first time), but I really see him finishing the season as a RB3 around 25th. The same opportunities just aren't going to be there for him that were there in New England and it's always tough to back up a good touchdown year with another one, so if he gets to double digits in touchdowns it will surprise me. I'm seeing more like a 720 yards and 8 touchdowns, maybe 10 catches for 100 yards and a touchdown kind of year which would be 136 points putting him right where the #25 running back would have been last year.

Could be. . but given the Eggles run a very similar offense to the PATs, and likely fewer games where they forget about him no reason =more touches altogether, i see 900-1K and 10 as his floor, easily a strong RB2. Definitely not thinking a repeat.. but still very solid

 

[averagejoe]

Just for grins I searched last year's forum for the grades, which Sam had posted in 2016.
Here's how the "experts" at Fantasy Pros did with last year's A Suicide:

Actual Finish) Owner / Fantasy Pros Preseason Grade (Preseason Rank)
1) Lefty 965 (1st)
2) Chef 824 (3rd)
3) TKO 806 (5th)
4) Sam 733 (10th)
5) Monkey 702 (11th)
6) Joe 900 (2nd)
7) Barilko 791 (8th)
8) Foot 783 (9th)
9) tlance 821 (4th)
10) Treff 699 (12th)
11) Fuzz 803 (6th)
12) Ram 799 (7th)

 

[TREFF]

Just for grins I searched last year's forum for the grades, which Sam had posted in 2016.
Here's how the "experts" at Fantasy Pros did with last year's A Suicide:

Actual Finish) Owner / Fantasy Pros Preseason Grade (Preseason Rank)
1) Lefty 965 (1st)
2) Chef 824 (3rd)
3) TKO 806 (5th)
4) Sam 733 (10th)
5) Monkey 702 (11th)
6) Joe 900 (2nd)
7) Barilko 791 (8th)
8) Foot 783 (9th)
9) tlance 821 (4th)
10) Treff 699 (12th)
11) Fuzz 803 (6th)
12) Ram 799 (7th)

Given my last years suicide team was led by Doug Martin and Jamaal Charles, featuring Ameer Abdullah and Vincent Jackson. ..i take the fact i still finished 2 spots higher as proof they don't know jack

 

[femurov]

Your Cardinals defense is Doubtful too.

The whole defense? Damn...

 

[SmokingMonkey]

5) Monkey 702 (11th)

 

[Bandit]

So I haven't jumped in the middle of this yet with my comparison, so here is Bandit vs. Steelers from the #9 spot:

Bandit

QB1 - Tom Brady (4th)
QB2 - Deshaun Watson (14th)
RB1 - Devonta Freeman (1st)
RB2 - Demarco Murray (2nd)
RB3 - Tevin Coleman (6th)
RB4 - Jonathan Stewart (9th)
WR1 - Doug Baldwin (3rd)
WR2 - Brandon Marshall (7th)
WR3 - Eric Decker (8th)
WR4 - Richard Matthews (10th)
WR5 - Mike Williams (13th)
TE1 - Greg Olsen (5th)
D/ST - Patriots (11th)
K - Justin Tucker (12th)

Steelers

QB1 - Eli Manning (10th)
QB2 - Ryan Tannehill (12th)
RB1 - Todd Gurley (2nd)
RB2 - Isaiah Crowell (3rd)
RB3 - C.J. Anderson (4th)
RB4 - Mike Gilislee (6th)
WR1 - Julio Jones (1st)
WR2 - Donte Moncrief (5th)
WR3 - Corey Coleman (7th)
WR4 - Devante Parker (8th)
WR5 - Quincy Enunwa (11th)
TE1 - Jimmy Graham (9th)
D/ST - Panthers (13th)
K - Chris Boswell (14th)

So we managed to not have one single player in common on our teams. I think I will have the advantage at quarterback with Brady over Manning, although I do think that Manning will have a nice year and finish as a top 8 quarterback for the season. At running back I give the slight advantage to me on starters although depth wise I think it's pretty even. That just goes down to early round philosophy since I went RB/RB and he went WR/RB it stands to reason that my running backs should be a little better and his wide receivers should be better. Speaking of which I give the starting wide receiver advantage to SP because of Julio although depth wise I think it's pretty close. Tight end is probably about a push although Olsen tends to stay healthier than Graham does. I think I have an advantage at defense and kicker although the advantage at those two positions is normally pretty negligible at best. I think overall I have a slight advantage as long as Demarco Murray can stay healthy this year, but that could be a big if.

 

[leftypower]

Just for grins I searched last year's forum for the grades, which Sam had posted in 2016.
Here's how the "experts" at Fantasy Pros did with last year's A Suicide:

Actual Finish) Owner / Fantasy Pros Preseason Grade (Preseason Rank)
1) Lefty 965 (1st)
2) Chef 824 (3rd)
3) TKO 806 (5th)
4) Sam 733 (10th)
5) Monkey 702 (11th)
6) Joe 900 (2nd)
7) Barilko 791 (8th)
8) Foot 783 (9th)
9) tlance 821 (4th)
10) Treff 699 (12th)
11) Fuzz 803 (6th)
12) Ram 799 (7th)

No one can predict injuries - besides, time and time again, it has been pointed out that a very good 'expert' success rate is 60-65%. Not sure how to calculate it from this data but they were probably pretty close to that mark. ...

 

[SteelersPride]

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So I haven't jumped in the middle of this yet with my comparison, so here is Bandit vs. Steelers from the #9 spot:

Bandit

QB1 - Tom Brady (4th)
QB2 - Deshaun Watson (14th)
RB1 - Devonta Freeman (1st)
RB2 - Demarco Murray (2nd)
RB3 - Tevin Coleman (6th)
RB4 - Jonathan Stewart (9th)
WR1 - Doug Baldwin (3rd)
WR2 - Brandon Marshall (7th)
WR3 - Eric Decker (8th)
WR4 - Richard Matthews (10th)
WR5 - Mike Williams (13th)
TE1 - Greg Olsen (5th)
D/ST - Patriots (11th)
K - Justin Tucker (12th)

Steelers

QB1 - Eli Manning (10th)
QB2 - Ryan Tannehill (12th)
RB1 - Todd Gurley (2nd)
RB2 - Isaiah Crowell (3rd)
RB3 - C.J. Anderson (4th)
RB4 - Mike Gilislee (6th)
WR1 - Julio Jones (1st)
WR2 - Donte Moncrief (5th)
WR3 - Corey Coleman (7th)
WR4 - Devante Parker (8th)
WR5 - Quincy Enunwa (11th)
TE1 - Jimmy Graham (9th)
D/ST - Panthers (13th)
K - Chris Boswell (14th)

So we managed to not have one single player in common on our teams. I think I will have the advantage at quarterback with Brady over Manning, although I do think that Manning will have a nice year and finish as a top 8 quarterback for the season. At running back I give the slight advantage to me on starters although depth wise I think it's pretty even. That just goes down to early round philosophy since I went RB/RB and he went WR/RB it stands to reason that my running backs should be a little better and his wide receivers should be better. Speaking of which I give the starting wide receiver advantage to SP because of Julio although depth wise I think it's pretty close. Tight end is probably about a push although Olsen tends to stay healthier than Graham does. I think I have an advantage at defense and kicker although the advantage at those two positions is normally pretty negligible at best. I think overall I have a slight advantage as long as Demarco Murray can stay healthy this year, but that could be a big if.

agreed, i think if gurley bounces back im set, and i love croweell this year wr startrs im ok with, i took high upside back ups

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Tlance vs the milkster

Tlance

QB1- Drew Brees
QB2- Carson Wentz
RB1- Christian McCaffrey
RB2- Bilal Powell
RB3- Samaje Perine
RB4- Kenneth Dixon
WR1- Odell Beckham
WR2- Jordy Nelson
WR3- Emanual Sanders
WR4- Devante Parker
WR5- Jordan Matthews
TE- Kyle Rudolph
K- Dan Bailey
D- Texans

MILK

QB1- Drew Brees
QB2- Jameis Winston
RB1- Leonard Fournette
RB2- Joe Mixon
RB3- Kareem Hunt
RB4- Marlon Mack
WR1- TY hilton
WR2- Davonte Adams
WR3- Kelvin Benjamin
WR4- Golden Tate
WR5- Kevin White
TE- David Njoku
K- Dan Bailey
D- Texans

Clearly, I win Defense and Tlance wins kicker... so lets not even analyze that....

QB- Best case scenario is a push, Worst case scenario Mllk wins in a landslide... Drew brees has been trending as a home start only, if this is true, then Winston turns this into a lop sided competition.... Milk wins

RB- the all rookie squad by milk is near impossible to analyze, you are either high on them or not... but the thing is Tlance is anchored by a rookie and his bench is anchored by a rookie... so it is hard not to favor Milk since his rookies are just BETTER projected than Tlance's. But the margin is impossible to predict.

WR- Tlance wins this hands down, or hands up... however you want your hands to be... BOTH teams have a high potential bench... Tlance wins...

TE- both teams are counting ONLY on one TE... i wanted to draft Rudolph, but missed badly... Even though Njoku is a rookie, and TE rookies are historically non existent... BUT this Browns team has NOBODY else, and will be playing from behind a lot... I have a hard time believing that Njoku will not be active all season, and productive....
BUT with that said, you have to give the win to the safe Rudolph, who was a top 5 TE last season...

to summarize

QB- Milk
RB- Milk
WR- Tlance
TE- Tlance
D- MILK
K- Tlance

so both owners won 3 of the position categories....

close match, but for the PRESEASON, the favorite has to be @tlance ...

but i think I have the better upside...

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Tlance vs the milkster
Clearly, I win Defense and Tlance wins kicker... so lets not even analyze that....

How can you be so sure???? Anything can happen in fant.....................oh shit, this again!

 

[Bandit]

Can somebody send me the URL for the main page of the B league suicide please? I'm going to need it so I can get the scores once the season starts.

 

[Trudem]

Can somebody send me the URL for the main page of the B league suicide please? I'm going to need it so I can get the scores once the season starts.

SportsHoopla suicide 2 League Office - Free Fantasy Football - ESPN

 

[Trudem]

That what you needed?

 

[Bandit]

That what you needed?

Yes sir, thank you so much.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yes sir, thank you so much.

if you want, you can re-send me your email and i can make you my second owner...

 

[Bandit]

if you want, you can re-send me your email and i can make you my second owner...

Sure that might make things easier. My email is [email protected] Thanks Milk.