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Joe Kelly

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who else thought he could be a competent starter for the Cardinals not so long ago?
 

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he just wasn't that good as a starting pitcher. Despite the good ERAs, his FIP and xFIP were above 4 and he had poor strikeout rates. It's hard to have long term success as a SP if you can't strike anyone out, especially in today's changing game.
 

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Kelly was part of that mystical Cardinals-find-gold-in-the-fridge aura that included Maness, Miller, Siegrist, Lyons and a couple of others. Seemingly every young pitcher they brought up could do nothing short of succeed. Of the bunch, Lyons is hanging around.

That's not a rap on the Cardinals, it's maybe just a matter of us believing they had some kind of magic potion. There were a couple of years when every line drive they hit scored 2 runs, even if there was nobody on base. Allen Craig, anyone?
 

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i'm still baffled that Boston gave away Lackey's cheap year to be saddled with the dead weight of Joe Kelly and Allen Craig
 

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who else thought he could be a competent starter for the Cardinals not so long ago?
i sure did.

the minute we got him tho, i said "reliever".

id prefer he'd be in the harbor instead.
 

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Never thought Stare Down Joe was anything special...so glad they moved him to the Sox!
 

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who else thought he could be a competent starter for the Cardinals not so long ago?

I'm guilty.

I thought the Red Sox fleeced the Cards when they got Joe Kelly and Allen Craig for John Lackey.

I thought Kelly would be a good starter for a long time, and thought Craig would be a solid addition to any lineup, but neither happened.
 
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