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POLL Is Justin Verlander a Future Hall of Famer?

Discussion in 'MLB Baseball Forum' started by Terry Rode, Nov 2, 2017.

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Is Justin Verlander a future Hall of Famer?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    6 vote(s)
    15.8%
  1. soxfan1468927

    soxfan1468927 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I agree. I was looking at what the Giants might offer. If the Sox want to trade JBJ I think he should part of a larger package. And even then, they would be selling low.
     



  2. The Q

    The Q KFFL's GOAT

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    Unless the name starting with Bum...I'm not interested.

    Sox infield D already isnt' good.

    The OF D is a key staple of this team.
     
  3. navamind

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    Are you really calling ERA an advanced stat? Lol.
     
  4. MilkSpiller22

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    umm.. no.. either you misread or I mistyped... read it again, don't see where you got that...
     
  5. navamind

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    Looks to me like you mistyped. Read the last sentence, it sounds to me like you were talking about ERA.
     
  6. navamind

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    also, you have to put postseason stats into context. These pitchers are usually facing the top offenses in the league. A 3.07 ERA in the postseason isn't the same as a 3.07 ERA in the regular season where they're facing some of the worst offenses in the league.

    His World Series performances leave a bit to be desired, but he's played a huge role in some of his teams getting to the WS in the first place (sub-3 ERA in LDS/LCS). He pitched pretty well in this WS and he only gave up 9 runs in 36.2 innings over the 2017 postseason.
     
  7. MilkSpiller22

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    Sure, no doubt it is harder... But context is only useful if there is no history for the other side... What I mean, we all know playoff teams are better, you are SUPPOSED to have a worse ERA/WHIP whatever... but you see all the time pitchers stepping up, and actually doing BETTER in their small sample... there are many GREAT playoff pitchers that we set the bar for who is a good playoff pitcher... Verlander is well below the bar...
     
  8. DirtDirtDirt

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    Bradon Belt being bandied about, which IMO would be a steal for the Sox and save them $$$$ on Hosmer
     
  9. soxfan1468927

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    I like Belt. If they were to trade JBJ, I would have to think JD Martinez would be coming here. But then you have Belt on a 4-year deal of $17 million+. I'm thinking they would rather just sign Moreland to a 2-year deal, sign JD, and then see if there are any bites on JBJ.
     
  10. msgkings322

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    LOL Bumgarner for JBJ. Maybe we should throw in Belt just in case.
     
  11. Guns N Guitars

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    He gets into the HOF just for dicking Kate...

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  12. The Q

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    Don't be obtuse.

    I never said straight up.

    But there's no one else on the Giants roster that does enough for me to deal JBJ.

    Maybe if Belt had a similar contract.

    I'd still be interested in Belt, but not for a price of JBJ.