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Is Harden a beta?

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Hardens usual antics of chucking up garbage 3s when he feels minimal contact backfired in a big way.

This seems like 50% or more of every NBA playoff game I watch.
 

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Yes low IQ. Dirbbling around with the ball damn near every possession while doing nothing with it, until the shot clock hits 5 seconds and chucking up a prayer or relying on other players to do something IS LOW IQ ball.

I'll go one step further. Its complete DUMBASSNESS. You're not gonna beat a team the quality of the Warriors with no ball movement. When the Rockets were moving the ball around and going inside/out Warriors had all kind of problems

More like you have a low IQ. He is far from a low IQ player LOL. Not sure why even responded to this DUMBASS
 

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if CP3 is healthy they very well could have won...lose your 2nd best player when you are up 3-2 in the series is rough

I havecno doubt they win in Game 6. Having CP3 is more than just having an elite defender on the court or a guy who can create his own shot, he is the true leader of this team. When they needed a bucket he got it. Just like Kawhi in 2017. It was toast. houston had a better shot than SA though
 

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I can't see a team led by James Harden ever winning a ring. Am I wrong?


Especially when you combine him with another loser and quitter
 

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Yes low IQ. Dirbbling around with the ball damn near every possession while doing nothing with it, until the shot clock hits 5 seconds and chucking up a prayer or relying on other players to do something IS LOW IQ ball.

I'll go one step further. Its complete DUMBASSNESS. You're not gonna beat a team the quality of the Warriors with no ball movement. When the Rockets were moving the ball around and going inside/out Warriors had all kind of problems

You mean they weren't going to beat the Warriors playing that way when there were up 3-2 and their 2nd best player went down?

Harden's biggest problem is that his shooting goes to shit in crunch time. He NEVER shoots well in the critical games and hasn't since he was in OKC. His 12-29 is very deceiving because a LOT of his 12 made shots were essentially uncontested layups.
 

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Especially when you combine him with another loser and quitter

CP3 is a quitter bc he got hurt? If you looked at the bench he was dying to get in there. He definitely didn’t quit. If you mean Ryan Anderson, well he just sucks balls
 

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I havecno doubt they win in Game 6. Having CP3 is more than just having an elite defender on the court or a guy who can create his own shot, he is the true leader of this team. When they needed a bucket he got it. Just like Kawhi in 2017. It was toast. houston had a better shot than SA though

They lost by 29.

I have no doubt the Warriors would have won game 4 with Iggy. Possibly game 5 too.

Since both were 1 possession games, my case is much stronger than yours.
 

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I can't see a team led by James Harden ever winning a ring. Am I wrong?

They were up 3-2 on the best starting 5 ever built and you think its impossible he could lead a team to a ring? Huh?
 

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They lost by 29.

I have no doubt the Warriors would have won game 4 with Iggy. Possibly game 5 too.

Since both were 1 possession games, my case is much stronger than yours.

Didn’t they lose 2 with him? cp3 was starting to heat at just the right time, while iggy is important he still is drastically declining and isn’t the same. CP3 was the rockets best player. They needed him in those 2nd halfs
 

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Hes a very low IQ player. He shouldn't be the one trying to dictate the offense of any team. Thats for sure. I wouldn't want to play with the guy. Lebron would probably be 2nd guessing playing with him as well. If CP3 can't stay healthy, the Rockets will never win it all

His team finished 4th in points per game and 1st in offensive efficiency. How the hell should he not be trying to dictate a teams offense???
 

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Didn’t they lose 2 with him? cp3 was starting to heat at just the right time, while iggy is important he still is drastically declining and isn’t the same. CP3 was the rockets best player. They needed him in those 2nd halfs

Warriors were up 2-1 with Iggy. They split the first 2, then won game 3 by 41.

Then proceeded to lose 2 close games without Iggy before thrashing the Rockets in the 2nd half of game 6. CP3 is very good, but he wasn't making up 29 points.
 

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I thought we learned this last year in the Spurs-Rockets series.

Harden is T-Mac all over again.
 

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His team finished 4th in points per game and 1st in offensive efficiency. How the hell should he not be trying to dictate a teams offense???


The same reason this series showed when he was trying to run offense when Paul was out of the game or not playing. The ball stays glued to his hand. If you watch the first half when the rockets are moving the ball around the past few games there wasn’t much the warriors could do stop it. When it stays glued to hardens hand that’s when they make their run

No team will ever win a championship if harden is playing offensive dictator


I would think the RESULTS would speak for themselves
 

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I thought we learned this last year in the Spurs-Rockets series.

Harden is T-Mac all over again.
Yep. Tmac or melo. All title-less losers
 

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They were up 3-2 on the best starting 5 ever built and you think its impossible he could lead a team to a ring? Huh?

Best starting 5 wasn't on the court, Iggy was out, so neither team was at full strength here. But yea, I don't think it's ever going to happen.
 

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Who are true Alpha's in the Nba?

LeBron
Westbrook
Draymond
Boogie
Randolph

anyone else?
 

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Who are true Alpha's in the Nba?

LeBron
Westbrook
Draymond
Boogie
Randolph

anyone else?

Boogie?

Lord help us all.

Chris Paul for sure.

Again, who cares?
 

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if CP3 is healthy they very well could have won...lose your 2nd best player when you are up 3-2 in the series is rough

If Iggy was healthy, the series would've already been over.
 

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They were up 3-2 on the best starting 5 ever built and you think its impossible he could lead a team to a ring? Huh?

Paul is much more of a leader than Harden. However, pinning your playoff hopes on an injury prone aging PG or a regular season star that doesn't defend is probably not the best plan of action.
 
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