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I remember some critics slamming this solely because the lead isn't Asian. I thought it was a stupid reason to bash a flick. Afternoon two episodes it looks good.

I also saw a lot of critics slamming it because of the white lead, but the comic (from 40 years ago) always had a white lead so I fail to see the point.

I watched a South Korean zombie flick awhile back (The Train to Busan) and not a white or black person in the cast of thousands! I don't see anyone ranting about the diversity in any movies from other countries.
 

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I also saw a lot of critics slamming it because of the white lead, but the comic (from 40 years ago) always had a white lead so I fail to see the point.

I watched a South Korean zombie flick awhile back (The Train to Busan) and not a white or black person in the cast of thousands! I don't see anyone ranting about the diversity in any movies from other countries.

The fact that people thought that Colleen should've been the IF when she was FUCKING MEMBER OF THE HAND for 10 god damn episodes....shows how clueless those idiots were.
 

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I agree that this could've easily been 8 or 9 episodes.

Having Harold as the end baddy after everything was a little bit of a let down, but I guess predictable.

I will say that I like the Hand in IF than the Hand in DD fits the netflix universe. It just fits better. Less mystic than DD, but still has the bring people back from the dead angle.

I thought Ward was one of the more interesting characters. His life spins out of control and you see all his ups and downs. Joy is a pretty static character. But you can tell she's a good person. I'm really curious to see where her and Ward go from here. It doesn't appear like she's at Rand right now, but she wants to go back.

The inter-Hand fighting (Bakuto vs. Gao) was a nice plot twist. I kinda wanted them to dive into that a bit more. That was something that could've filled some of the dead air time the ended up filling. I hope this is part of Defenders.

I will say they had 2 NICE cliffhangers. His friend going to Gao is interesting, but unexplained how they met (unless he was always Hand too). And Kun Lun just missing looks really fun. It wasn't expected, but it was definitely something that has potential, although I'm sure its far more mystical than either @calsnowskier or I would like.

I'm torn about how they should take this next.

I will say, since we're talking about all the Netflix Marvel shows

1) I kinda want them to shore up both IF and LC cliffhangers in Defenders so they can just jump into Hero For Hire. Which LC took to such an extreme to fight against during the show it became almost comical.

2) I almost expected to see Elektra in this one. Where does she fall in this Gao v. Bakuto battle? That's a question I want answered (plus....I really just need more Elektra in my life).

3) Punisher doesn't necessarily fit in this story, but watching him kill Hand ninjas with grenades and rocket launchers would be fun.

4) Claire is an interesting character who is involved in a lot of stories. I wanna know how she will fit into Defenders. Plus, how do they move back to JJ/LC rather than LC/Claire.

I think IF is probably the weakest of the shows so far IMO. But it's close. I think DD1&2 plus JJ are clearly the class of the Netflix-verse so far. I thought the being black part of LC was fine. But if you took the cell phones out of the show, it could've been set in the damn 70s. But really, it just got bad as the season went on while IF got stronger, but also just had too much time to fill. This could've been an 8 season mini-series.
 

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I think Clair will be the one to introduce everyone to each other and kinda be their Nick Fury. As for where Defenders will go, it seams like they will be fighting the Hand. The Sigourney Weaver character, I think, is either THE leader of the Hand, or one of the top Lieutenants. I hope we see Gao, but I am not sure we will. In order to sell Weaver, they may need to kill Gao off, and I think that would be a mistake.
 

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I think Clair will be the one to introduce everyone to each other and kinda be their Nick Fury. As for where Defenders will go, it seams like they will be fighting the Hand. The Sigourney Weaver character, I think, is either THE leader of the Hand, or one of the top Lieutenants. I hope we see Gao, but I am not sure we will. In order to sell Weaver, they may need to kill Gao off, and I think that would be a mistake.

Do you think they're bringing Elektra back for Defenders?

I would think they would.

Isn't she supposed to rise up and be the Hand Leader?
 

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Do you think they're bringing Elektra back for Defenders?

I would think they would.

Isn't she supposed to rise up and be the Hand Leader?
I don't know the source material, so I don't KNOW anything. But I think she is just a weapon, not a leader.
 

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I don't know the source material, so I don't KNOW anything. But I think she is just a weapon, not a leader.

I just meant from DD S2. I forget exactly what it was. But I just can't see that woman being told what to do. Her character would chop Gao's head off. Point blank. lol
 

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I also saw a lot of critics slamming it because of the white lead, but the comic (from 40 years ago) always had a white lead so I fail to see the point.

I watched a South Korean zombie flick awhile back (The Train to Busan) and not a white or black person in the cast of thousands! I don't see anyone ranting about the diversity in any movies from other countries.

A mate said, as a half Asian person he would hate to see an Asian actor given the role just because of his race; it would perpetuate the stereotype that all Asian people know martial arts, in his view.

IF doesn't really deserve the critical drubbing it's getting. It's not the best of the Defenders show but it is pretty good.
 

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Mentioned this in the LC thread, but it belongs here...

S2 drops Sept 7.
 

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Defenders helped clear the path for the missing Kun Lun story to take the lead here.
 

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Season 2 "Memories" teaser:

 

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Season 2 trailer:

 

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Iron Fist Season 2 Banner:

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Iron Fist Season 2 Poster:

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watching episode 1 now, I had hope until that first meeting with Ward and Joy.

Seems like the same old Danny...
 

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Joy is a miserable and abysmal character.

I hope ward gets a stake dipped in holy water and ends her miserable existence.
 

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normally i'd agree with Joy regarding the last piece of her conversation with misty...but in this case she's wrong.
 

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I didn't think this season was bad... actually pretty good...

Was disappointed about a few things
 

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I didn't think this season was bad... actually pretty good...

Was disappointed about a few things

Haven’t finished yet.

But if something isn’t driven through Joys heart or her head isn’t rolling on the floor, I’ll be very disappointed.
 
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