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POLL If he's hired (and it's looking like he will) is Gruden a good hire?

Is he going to be a good hire?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • No

    Votes: 26 52.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 5 10.0%
  • Potato salad with bacon on top

    Votes: 2 4.0%

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DJ

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How do you feel about the Raiders dumping Crabtree?

I don't know to be honest but I'm stunned. He has played well since coming to Oakland but something is going on with him.
 

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I don't know to be honest but I'm stunned. He has played well since coming to Oakland but something is going on with him.

That is what I've read. It isn't about his salary but having to do with him
 
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Coop needs to go also. Maybe draft a WR or chase one in FA....but we need defensive help also.

We have a few guys in Roberts and Patterson who are decent, but mainly slot WR's.....Johnny Holton has some potential but he's raw and probably best suited to being a 4th WR for now.
 

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Will he have the teams confidence?
 

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Coop needs to go also. Maybe draft a WR or chase one in FA....but we need defensive help also.

We have a few guys in Roberts and Patterson who are decent, but mainly slot WR's.....Johnny Holton has some potential but he's raw and probably best suited to being a 4th WR for now.

Amari Cooper?
 

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Coop needs to go also. Maybe draft a WR or chase one in FA....but we need defensive help also.

We have a few guys in Roberts and Patterson who are decent, but mainly slot WR's.....Johnny Holton has some potential but he's raw and probably best suited to being a 4th WR for now.
I wouldnt give up on cooper yet. It is a down season for the offense as a whole. The change in coaching might help. Crabtree can be a Diva. When he was in SF he complained about Alex Smith then later about Kaepernick. An unwanted locker room dustraction
 

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He is a good x's and o's person and a tremendous motivator. He is however horrible at evaluating talent. So if hired the Raiders will do well his first year and slowly migrate into a mediocre team.


I thought they already did that?????
 

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He is a good x's and o's person and a tremendous motivator. He is however horrible at evaluating talent. So if hired the Raiders will do well his first year and slowly migrate into a mediocre team.

I think the main thing here...if the Raiders give Gruden complete control over the 53...they are making a mistake. Like you said, he is not a great talent evaluator...particularly DEF.

My guess is they will get back to a top 10ish type OFC, but I question whether he will be able to build a championship DEF.
 

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Gruden is 54, and it's been almost 10 years since he's been a HC.

Any NFL coaching job is much more demanding than a broadcasting position. Coaches tend to work insane hours during the season, like at least 70-80 hours a week. Assuming he gets hired, I'm guessing Gruden is going to quickly discover that he's gotten "soft" and it's not that easy to just "turn the switch" and start working those hours again.

Of course chronological age alone won't prevent him from being a successful HC. Marv was in his 60's when the Bills made their Super Bowl appearances.
 

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Gruden is 54, and it's been almost 10 years since he's been a HC.

Any NFL coaching job is much more demanding than a broadcasting position. Coaches tend to work insane hours during the season, like at least 70-80 hours a week. Assuming he gets hired, I'm guessing Gruden is going to quickly discover that he's gotten "soft" and it's not that easy to just "turn the switch" and start working those hours again.

Of course chronological age alone won't prevent him from being a successful HC. Marv was in his 60's when the Bills made their Super Bowl appearances.

There is also Vermeil
 
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