I would like to discuss Bryce Harper

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So 42HR/99RBI/.330avg (in 153 games) is better than 44HR/137RBI/.348avg (in 148 games)?

Yes, it was better than Miggy's 2013.

 

[navamind]

Yes, it was better than Miggy's 2013.

Especially when you factor in baserunning and defense. Miggy was a lousy 3rd baseman, Harper's a pretty good right fielder.

 

[Rock Strongo]

And yet you said that Phil Nevin had 3-4 great years even though he never was in the top 10 in BA, hits, or doubles, had one season in the top 10 in HRs, one season in the top 10 in RBI.

actually, he had 2 really good years. 2000/2001

.946 OPS, 147 OPS+

hit over .300, slugged over .560, drove in 233, hit 72 HR

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

yes, by OPS+

Okay. You use RBIs. I'll use OPS+.

 

[Rock Strongo]

.256 AVG with 2 outs and RISP....with a .515 OBP

He also hit .336 with men on base and over .300 with RISP, but those don't help your argument to bring them up...

yes, and he hit .227 late and close

 

[Rock Strongo]

Okay. You use RBIs. I'll use OPS+.

i like using them all. pinning one set of metrics is being ignorant of data.

 

[Rock Strongo]

when did this become a bryce harper sucks thread?

all dirt and i are saying, is "is he a $500 million player"?

to date, to what he was touted as being, he hasnt been.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

ok

ken griffery JR with a .920 OPS ages 19-24

3 cons 100+ RBI years, 2 40+ HR seaons

thats one

miggy ages 20-25 had a .926 OPS

5 cons 100+ RBI years

Arod had a .943 OPS by 24

4 100+ RBI seasons

3 cons years of 40+ HR

"Harper is totally overhyped. His comparables are only among the best hitters of their generations."

lolz

 

[Rock Strongo]

"Harper is totally overhyped. His comparables are only among the best hitters of their generations."

lolz

he asked me to list them, so i did, then he felt shame and left.

you left off fred lynn

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

all dirt and i are saying, is "is he a $500 million player"?

No, that's not all you're saying.

Im starting to think this is the most overhyped player (so far) ever

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

he asked me to list them, so i did, then he felt shame and left.

you left off fred lynn

The guy with a third of the PAs? My bad.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No, that's not all you're saying.

yes, its the point of this entire thread. i know what im saying. why?

im the one using my synapses to create the thought and execute it.

 

[Rock Strongo]

The guy with a third of the PAs? My bad.

yeah, the one i said "small sample size" but fit the bill none the less.

that one.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No, that's not all you're saying.

i remind you:

As we approach the winter of "500 million for Bryce Harper"...

Has Bryce Harper lived up to the hype a grand total of ONE season his entire career, and been otherwise nothing more than "pretty good" ?

Im starting to think this is the most overhyped player (so far) ever

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

What is the % of MLB players that broke into the bigs at 24 as opposed to having 6 years experience?

That's the point, Rex.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

i remind you:

As we approach the winter of "500 million for Bryce Harper"...

Has Bryce Harper lived up to the hype a grand total of ONE season his entire career, and been otherwise nothing more than "pretty good" ?

Im starting to think this is the most overhyped player (so far) ever

That's what I just posted. You drinking this morning?

 

[Rock Strongo]

That's what I just posted. You drinking this morning?

thats...dirts...opening post.

you...didnt type it, he did.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

#1 in HR
#1 in runs
#1 in OBP
#1 in SLG
#2 in AVG
#2 in walks
#5 in RBI
#1 in WAR

Those were his 2015 season league rankings....how is that not a great season?

Sure, I guess, if all you're counting is OPS, OPS+, runs, OBP, SLG, AVG, BB, RBI and WAR...

fuckin lolz

 

[Rex Racer]

That's the point, Rex.

I know. Harper is about to cruise into his prime with 8 years under his belt and people slag on him because he's a bit of a jackoff. I'd take him on the Red Sox in a heartbeat.

 

[soxfan1468927]

actually, he had 2 really good years. 2000/2001

.946 OPS, 147 OPS+

hit over .300, slugged over .560, drove in 233, hit 72 HR

Well you are just shifting the goal posts then. You said that Nevin had 3-4 great years. But Harper's 2015 was only "borderline great"