Fernando Rodney vs Sean Doolittle

[StanMarsh51]

Some seem to think that Rodney has as good a case for an all-star game spot as Doolittle. I don't see it, considering Doolittle's absurd WHIP, K/BB, and healthy leads in innings, BAA, OPSA.

Thoughts?

Fernando Rodney Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

Sean Doolittle Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

 

[Logicallylethal]

Both are deserving

Doolittle has been sick out of the pen especially with that low whip and k's per 9

But no one has been as consistent closing games as Rodney has. Sure his whip is higher and he puts himself n tough situations sometimes, but he pitches himself out of it (hence his 2.10 era and 25 of 27 save conversion)

If this was just any regular all star game I think Rodney would've gotten the nod. But I think since the game means something, Doolittle was selected as a lefty specialist.

 

[Logicallylethal]

Make that 26 of 28

Most reliable closer in the AL this year. ERA down to 2.04. One of his blown saves was an error by Brad Miller booting a routine ground ball to end the game.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Rodney and it's not even close.

Fernando Rodney has a lower ERA, leads the AL in saves by 3 and has less blown saves than Doolittle despite having almost double the opportunities.

Rodney: 2.04 ERA
Doolittle: 2.94 ERA

Rodney: 26/28 save opportunities.
Doolittle: 13/16 save opportunities.

Rodney: 0.9 WAR
Doolittle: 0.7 WAR

The only thing Sean Doolittle has over Rodney is his WHIP and a better strikeout ratio. Those mean little when Doolittle blows more saves and gives up more runs.

End of story.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Rodney and it's not even close.

Fernando Rodney has a lower ERA, leads the AL in saves by3 and has less blown saves than Doolittle despite having almost double the opportunities.

Rodney: 2.04 ERA
Doolittle: 2.94 ERA

Rodney: 26/28 save opportunities.
Doolittle: 13/16 save opportunities.

Rodney: 0.9 WAR
Doolittle: 0.7 WAR

The only thing Sean Doolittle has over Rodney is his WHIP and a better strikeout ratio. Those mean little when Doolittle blows more saves and gives up more runs.

End of story.

You know ERA has little value for relievers, right? One bad outing or a select few could highly skew ERA for a reliever. Doolittle has also allowed a smaller percentage of inherited runners to score

I mean, was John Smoltz' 2002 not a dominant season because he had a 3.25 ERA, when that ERA was inflated because of 1 game where he gave up 8 runs? Or as an M's fan, would you say Kaz Sasaki's 2000 was better than his 2001 because he had a better ERA and save % in 2000? I wouldn't agree.

And you're seriously using WAR over a small sample size? Everybody knows that WAR tends to be unreliable in small sample sizes (such as a 30-40 inning sample). I mean, Joba Chamberlain has the same WAR as Rodney...is Joba just as good this year?

 

[tlance]

Doolittle is the better pitcher and it is not close.

By the way, at least 1 of Doolittle's blown saves came before he was the closer (maybe 2). That stat is very misleading, because the 8th inning set-up guy can sure get a blown save, but he can't get the handshake.

Saves may be the most arbitrary stat in the world. Ask any GM which pitcher they would rather have and I bet that over 90% will say Doolittle, if not 100%.

 

[navamind]

Could go either way, but I'd lean towards Doolittle because of the WHIP/redonkulous K/BB.

I just can't believe Rodney's still in the league, and he's become a useful pitcher nonetheless. He was very mediocre in Detroit and LA.

 

[broncosmitty]

I don't care.

 

[navamind]

I don't care.

For some reason, this made me laugh.

 

[broncosmitty]

The Mariners board is a great place to get a cheap laugh if you haven't checked it out. For what it's worth, I always like Fernando in Detroit. Didn't like to see him in non save situations any more than he liked to pitch in them though.

 

[cezero]

I don't care.

lol

 

[gandydancer]

The Mariners board is a great place to get a cheap laugh if you haven't checked it out. For what it's worth, I always like Fernando in Detroit. Didn't like to see him in non save situations any more than he liked to pitch in them though.

Sure you would take either of them in the D. Nathan is a scary fucker. I would take either of them, but prefer Rodney over Doolittle.