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we stunk 4 to's
 

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Not protecting the ball in the redzone. that speaks volumes. This offense is not even close to where it needs to be.
 

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the team wasnt prepared well and hasnt been for years 0-4 in openers
 

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the team wasnt prepared well and hasnt been for years 0-4 in openers

there were plays that could of been made. No execution at all.
 

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we stunk 4 to's

wasnt able to watch the game live ... just watched the highlights

looked like clam chowder cost us the game with the fumble on the punt return & the clam chowder arms on the interception in the endzone
 

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what i didnt see enough of in the highlights was doctson or pryor ... did they play ?

after looking at the box score i see pryor made a contribution ... and Grant with 60 yards ?

nice

its going to be a long season if Cousins is our leading rusher tho

defensively it doesnt look like they had an answer for covering TE Ertz ?
 

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what i didnt see enough of in the highlights was doctson or pryor ... did they play ?

after looking at the box score i see pryor made a contribution ... and Grant with 60 yards ?

nice

its going to be a long season if Cousins is our leading rusher tho

defensively it doesnt look like they had an answer for covering TE Ertz ?


I actually think Gruden is kind of forcing the Grant agenda to the detriment of the team as a whole.

Or run game was a joke again.

And Ertz always treats us like his personal bitch.
 

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Mark Tyler looks at the Studs and Duds of the Redskins game against the Eagles.
by Mark Tyler Sep 11, 2017, 6:33am PDT TWEET


As usual, the Redskins came out and laid an egg in their season opener. The surprising part about this loss at home, was that the Redskins have completely owned the Eagles as of late...well, not on Sunday afternoon. The roles were completely reversed as the Eagles defense dominated the game, forcing costly mistakes all afternoon.



Below are my Studs and Duds of the game.



Studs:



Ryan Grant - I almost can't believe I am writing this, but yes, Ryan Grant played very well on Sunday. He made some great catches at key times during the game, and was probably the most consistent of the Redskins receivers on the day.



Chris Thompson - Thompson keeps making his case for even more touches in this offense. He had 4 catches for 52 yards, and his touchdown reception was a thing of beauty!



Ryan Kerrigan - Kerrigan was a man-child against Philly, showing up all over the field, while recording 1/2 sack, multiple pressures, some really nice tackles, and a huge interception which he returned for a touchdown (the 3rd of his career).



Preston Smith - Smith had multiple pressures on the day and notched a sack while recording 4 tackles. He looked fast and aggressive off the edge.



Zach Brown - Brown was all over the field Sunday, combining for 12 total tackles (2 for a loss), and a sack when he wrapped up Wentz who was called "in the grasp", but a personal foul call over-road the sack.



Josh Norman/Bashaud Breeland/Kendall Fuller - The corner trio played very solid all afternoon making plays in both run support and pass defense. All three had beautiful passes defended where they almost came down with the interception. Fuller led the trio with 5 tackles, one of those for a loss.



Duds:



Kirk Cousins - Now, this loss was not all on Cousins, as he was under extreme pressure all afternoon, but he was not accurate on the day, often missing high to open receivers; one of which resulted in an interception in the red zone. Although the fumble-that-never-was in the fourth quarter was bad, it was still a blown call by the refs. Kirk finished the day 23-40 for 240 yards and 1 touchdown, 1 interception and 2 fumbles. He was sacked 4 times.



Terrelle Pryor - I know Pryor did make some big catches on the afternoon, but his drops also continues to plague him. Even though the play didn't count on the stat sheet, the deep ball that hit him right in the bread-basket in the end zone was inexcusable. So was the slant that hit him right in the hands that would have resulted in a key first down.



Morgan Moses - Moses played about as poorly as an offensive linemen could play Sunday, giving up multiple pressures, three sacks (two of which resulted in fumbles recovered by the Eagles), and not blocking particularly well in the run game. It's being reported he was seen leaving the stadium in a walking boot - maybe this was Gruden's way of attempting to cover for his piss-poor play by saying he was not 100 percent during the game...who knows. What I do know is whoever is grading this game HAS to give Moses a 0.0 for his play!



Brandon Scherff - None of the linemen were particularly good on Sunday, but Moses and Scherff stood out as being worse than the others. Scherff gave up multiple pressures on the day as well, sometimes getting driven like a cheap car into the backfield. He also whiffed on some downfield blocks (gotta keep your head up, son!).



Trent Williams - I guess by now, we all expect a high level of play from our Pro Bowl left tackle. Trent Williams did not deliver that on Sunday against the Eagles. He was uncharacteristically inconsistent on the afternoon, missing blocks and having some mental mistakes in protection as well. His play this preseason was not good, and it looks as though that rust has not come off yet.



Vernon Davis/Jordan Reed (blocking) - I know neither player is know to have great blocking skills, but both Davis and Reed were just awful on the day when called upon to block. Reed was also called for a holding and offensive pass interference penalty on the day. Maybe it's time to activate Jeremy Sprinkle.

pretty much sums up what everyone is saying
 

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I actually think Gruden is kind of forcing the Grant agenda to the detriment of the team as a whole.

Or run game was a joke again.

And Ertz always treats us like his personal bitch.

The defense scored one of their TDs & put them in good position on another turnover. The offense also gave up one of the Eagles TDs & screwed themselves all day w/ turnovers (plus the Crowder fumble on punt). Wentz also made some amazing plays that would probably hurt most defenses. Some guys on the other team are going to have big days - it is a fact of life in today's NFL.

Overall the Redskins defense did pretty well especially considering that there are so many new players. The run defense appears to be much better than in the past - we will see. It was very promising seeing Galette & Smith make their presence known & Brown should be a major force. This offense has a lot to prove, but the defense appears to be going in the right direction. I pray that this doesn't prove to be false hope.
 

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Overall the Redskins defense did pretty well especially considering that there are so many new players. The run defense appears to be much better than in the past - we will see. It was very promising seeing Galette & Smith make their presence known & Brown should be a major force. This offense has a lot to prove, but the defense appears to be going in the right direction. I pray that this doesn't prove to be false hope.

Agree with this, and I believe I have heard before that the offense sometimes take a while to catch up to the defense. It's easy to forget that we have a lot of new and young players on both sides of the ball and the chemistry takes time. I would add that Swearingen is a force and also played well. That being said, third down must improve for the defense, 8/12 is pitiful
 

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Five observations from the Redskins’ Week 1 loss to the Eagles




By Mike Jones September 11 at 1:31 PM
losing to the Philadelphia Eagles, 30-17.

As Coach Jay Gruden said, “Four turnovers, 0-for-2 in the red zone, 3-for-10 on third down. They were 8-for-13 on the third down. You don’t have to look at the stat sheet for very long to see who won and lost” — and why.

[Boswell: One game shows us Redskins’ bar of expectation needs to be lowered]

Here are some of the key areas that stood out in the loss to Philadelphia.

1. Pass game struggles: We already went over the drops. But there’s more to the passing struggles.

One of the more perplexing areas of Sunday’s outing involved the offensive line’s inability to hold off Philadelphia’s pass rush. Yes, the Eagles are good, but the Redskins made them look better than they were. The Eagles registered four sacks and another 11 hits on the quarterback. Kirk Cousins — sacked four times just once last season — found himself under pressure numerous other times, as well. It’s no wonder the quarterback completed just 57 percent of his passes (fourth worst of his tenure as a full-time starter since 2015) and a passer rating of 72.9 (his ninth-lowest as a starter).

For a quarterback, confidence is just about everything. If he can’t get comfortable in the pocket, it hinders his poise, his decision-making, his fundamentals and execution. That’s why we saw Cousins throwing balls off his back foot as he tried to make something happen with the rush coming, or force balls into double coverage (like the near interception in the first quarter), or overthrow receivers (like the goal line interception). At times, Cousins couldn’t step into throws because of oncoming pressure. Other times, the pressure wasn’t there, but the rattled quarterback still didn’t give himself time to use the proper technique. As was the case in the preseason, the protection issues can’t be pinned on one particular area or player. Some plays, right tackle Morgan Moses got overwhelmed by the rush and surrendered pressure or a sack. Other times, it was a rush up the middle that either center Spencer Long didn’t pick up because he was helping Brandon Scherff, only for Shawn Lauvao to fall down while trying to slide over to that spot. It was more disjointed play from the line again and again.

There was a stretch in the middle of the third quarter where the Redskins looked close to their best because Jay Gruden dialed up a series of quick-hitters which enabled Cousins to get the ball out quickly and keep the pass rush at bay. But things eventually bogged down again. Of course, there were times when the Redskins did have opportunities, but receivers dropped passes to kill drives. That’s why Gruden summed up the passing game this way: “It’s frustrating. I think we’re better than that up front. We’re better than that at receiver — dropping balls — and we’re better than that at quarterback. We all had our hand in it — play-callers, offensively, it wasn’t good enough obviously.”

[Week 1 performance by Redskins’ receivers serves as a reminder of what they lost]

2. Run blocking: Everyone always wants to kill the offensive line when the run game isn’t working. But those five weren’t solely at fault Sunday.

Running backs Rob Kelley and Chris Thompson combined for 34 rushing yards on 13 attempts for a 2.6-yard average. Kelley had a long of six yards and Thompson a long of four. It was Cousins who led the team in rushing with four carries for 30 yards, some on broken plays and a couple on designed runs (and he took some hits you definitely don’t want your quarterback taking, so that wasn’t good).

Yes, linemen missed blocks at times, but on five of the 13 running back runs, tight ends Vernon Davis and/or Jordan Reed struggled, missing blocks, which led to stops for a loss or minimal gains. Davis is generally an effective blocker, but wasn’t on point Sunday, and had some struggles in the preseason, as well. Reed has improved some here, but needs improvement. Another run got foiled because wide receiver Terrelle Pryor couldn’t nail his assignment.

Another interesting factor in the run game struggles involved play design. Gruden and offensive line coach Bill Callahan decide on the run plays, and they routinely opted for power runs, which proved ineffective. Some of Kelley’s better runs came on stretch zone plays. Kelley picked up yards to the outside, or by hitting the cutback lanes. But those such plays were few on Sunday. Another curious decision involved Niles Paul’s involvement in only five plays. The tight end/fullback possibly could have helped either as a lead blocker for the running backs, or as an end-line blocker in place of Reed or Davis. Lastly, Cousins has talked about wanting to use his legs more to hurt defenses. But for the sake of everyone involved, the Redskins have to get better execution and perhaps better play design in the rushing attack.

narrowly missed out on interceptions that they couldn’t quite hang onto. Carson Wentz proved too slippery for both Jonathan Allen and Preston Smith on the play that resulted in the first-quarter touchdown pass.

But as a whole, Washington’s defense showed promise. Zach Brown makes a difference. With 12 tackles (two for a loss), a would-be sack (a penalty negated it), he led the defensive charge. The Redskins received strong play as a whole from their linebackers: Kerrigan, of course, with his interception, but he also had a hand in a sack and had three tackles; Preston Smith had a sack and four tackles; Mason Foster had nine tackles and a fumble recovery. That fumble was caused by Fuller, who had probably his best outing as a pro both against the run and the pass. He recorded five tackles (one for a loss) and a pass breakup. Safety D.J. Swearinger appeared to get turned around in pass coverage a couple of times. But he made up for it on other plays as he came over the top to provide support, breaking up passes or making a touchdown-saving tackle.

4. Third downs: But despite all those positives from the defense, the Redskins needed more from the unit. Washington allowed the Eagles to convert on eight of 14 third downs. Philadelphia had 19 first downs (17 passing), which is entirely too many. What’s worse, five of those third down conversions came with the Eagles facing difficult situations, needing 12, 10 (three times) and seven yards to pick up first downs. That can’t happen. Better pressure, and better coverage will make the difference.

Meanwhile, third downs also proved problematic for the offense. The Redskins converted only three of 11 third downs for first downs. A big reason for this problem was ineffectiveness on first and second downs. Seven different times the Redskins needed nine yards or more to pick up a first down. Meanwhile, the team had only one third-down situation that required less than six yards for a first down. Turnovers came on two of the third downs. It’s such a small margin for error. Say the Redskins get the sack to prevent the touchdown pass to Nelson Agholor, and Cousins makes a touchdown throw instead of interception on third-and-6, this game could’ve ended very differently.

[Brewer: Upon further review, the Redskins’ offense has issues to address]

5. Preparation: The Redskins can’t panic, but they do indeed need a greater sense of urgency. It’s a long season, but as Kerrigan said, “You can’t lose at home, Week 1 to your division rival.” Now the Redskins fly west for a meeting with Sean McVay and the Rams, before a home game against the Raiders and a road trip to face the Chiefs. So, the going is rather tough.

Gruden and his assistants have to figure out what about their approach isn’t working, because the same problems that the coach and players dismissed in preseason, attributing to a lack of game-planning, all still remain. Gruden & Co. talked about having more up-tempo practices, and really focusing on details, but for whatever reason, that work didn’t carry over into Sunday’s game. Something isn’t clicking.

The Redskins are indeed typically slow starters. Although players talked often this week about the message that they needed a fast start, that remained just talk.

This week, however, as they prepare to face a coaching staff that knows just about everything they want to do both offensively and defensively, the Redskins have no margin for error.

a good summary here
 

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Unfortunately some of this seems like the same old Redskins on D - need to work on that especially in terms of 3rd down as some have indicated. Not sure about everyone else - but I still quite often would rather the Redskins D face 3rd and 1 rather than 3rd and 8 or even 3rd and 15. Argh. Time to step it up in that area. Did also like the inspired play of Fuller at times.
 

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wasnt able to watch the game live ... just watched the highlights

looked like clam chowder cost us the game with the fumble on the punt return & the clam chowder arms on the interception in the endzone

That INT was in no way on JC. That was a terrible pass by Cousins who unnecessarily rushed it and threw high and behind JC. If Cuz puts the ball on JC's body the Skins are looking at 1st n goal. If he hits JC in a way that allows him to keep running its a TD.

The fumbled punt was all JC.
 

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Get 'em, @lizclarketweet. http://burgundy.blog/4ayir

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