Dombrowski

[Winged_Wheel88]

 

[Howie115]

In his defense ... Soria and Nathan were both very good before coming to Detroit.

Chamberlain was a roll of the dice, and pretty cheap. You got 3 good months out of him. It's on Ausmus that he kept running him out there in the 8th game after game when he clearly had nothing the entire second half.

 

[broncosmitty]

Signed Joe, signed Joba, traded for Soria(drafted closers in the first several times the last few years), signed Johnson, signed Hanrahanrahan...... I never would have guessed each and every one of them would underperform or not perform at all.

People could say he should have resigned Benoit, but he wouldn't be pitching right now either.

Id like to blame someone or something for the awfulness that is our bullpen, but I can't. It's a collective burden, I think.

 

[burfboy]

This is a mess that never sorted itself out.....what are the odds of everything going wrong that could....nothing worked....but I question what they did today....one more inning from JV and one more from Sanchez. ..then worry about the 9th.....kind of like my head hurts so stop banging it against the wall....

 

[kengel6]

What did Detroit get for Fister? Robbie Ray? HA. Dumbo got taken to the cleaners.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

For a guy like Soria to be failing like he's had in Detroit.. Some accountability has to go to the pitching coach also.. It seems like there were a number of relievers that come to Detroit and fail.. Minus Benoit whom I would have traded for over Soria personally..

 

[kengel6]

Well, that's that. May I present for your approval, the simple facts of life. 3 Cy Young winners, 2 MVP's, the Lowest ERA pitcher and the AL Batting Champ(and Triple Crown winner) for 2 years. Unfortunately, these are not Tiger player stats for this year. Hey Dumbo, you should be a "barker" at the circus. He sure sold us a bad package. Now add a manager that has never coached (except for a Third World Olympic team) and bingo, 3 million ticket sales at Comerica. Dumbo should be fired tomorrow. Nuff said.

 

[gandydancer]

End of the world the Tigers lost again.

Way too much emphasis on wether a sports team wins and loses is bad for your health.

 

[kengel6]

Miggy just went under the knife and will be laid up for 3 months. Bet he shows up next spring weighing 300 lbs. Good extension signing Dumbo. Oh, his lifetime DH ave is .248, so, good luck Tigers.

 

[GenJac]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Dombrowski's approach to the Tigers' bullpen appears by definition to be insane.

 

[gvsulaker82]

Kengels post about miggyy was way off.

 

[broncosmitty]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Dombrowski's approach to the Tigers' bullpen appears by definition to be insane.

What approach would you like him to try?

He's drafted, traded for and signed relievers pretty heavily. Is there an option Dave and I aren't aware of?

 

[themuzzer]

What approach would you like him to try?

He's drafted, traded for and signed relievers pretty heavily. Is there an option Dave and I aren't aware of?

I have one.....Sign the unproven bitter bastard down in TN.....I hear he's driving a school bus.......It would be a feel good story......School bus driver gets his shot in the show.........

 

[gandydancer]

I have one.....Sign the unproven bitter bastard down in TN.....I hear he's driving a school bus.......It would be a feel good story......School bus driver gets his shot in the show.........

Is this a plot to get DD fired? Then I would rather you try out for the Lions instead.

 

[themuzzer]

Is this a plot to get DD fired? Then I would rather you try out for the Lions instead.

DD is fine, building a team.........He's a miracle worker at deadlines......But over the past 5 years hasn't somehow un screwed the Bull pen.......

I can give up runs with the best of them and command a lot less on the pay roll is all im saying.


I can also throw interceptions and miss tackles if Mayhew is looking to cut some payroll........This is a business isn't it?

I'm willing to take less and make the same mistakes......

 

[Blitzville]

Toronto and the Angles are looking at Dave Dombrowski. If Dave were to go out leaving Detroit with one last hurrah trade for a World Series championship would he do it at all costs?

I'm just saying that Cincinnati has some players that are good that they are interested in dumping for money's sake. You have no first baseman or third baseman or dominant closer or two reliable starting pitchers.

I wont mention any names but you check out the Reds roster and see what you think. Now the part that isn't too Tigers friendly: Who do you have that would net the most return on a trade? A package deal perhaps. This could be the last hurrah effort by Dave to give Detroit any chance of winning one for Mike Illitch. I am just saying.

Does anyone have a thought scenario for a blockbuster win-at-all costs trade? For Detroit to play there last 85 games with. You're 9 games out right now and slipping.

 

[broncosmitty]

Sure.

Trade Price, Cespedes, Soria, Avila and Davis for "prospects", then trade those to Cincy. Since we don't have any left.

(Mike Leake is my favorite FA to be out there. Cuz he's good and won't require a crazy package. But I'm all for selling, not buying. Todd Frazier mucked everything up on Monday or he'd be real high on my list. Almost 9mil Cincy could save there.)

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Kinsler 2 go 2

Angels looking for a 2B...

someone mentioned the yanks too

FIRESALE

I like smitty's idea of Leake...... a LOT

 

[MiamiVice]

Leake would be great... as a 3rd starter. There actually are a lot of good starters available this offseason. Tigers could get a guy like Leake and a guy like Latos for the same price it would cost to sign price. Full list of free agent starters below:

Brett Anderson (28)
Brandon Beachy (29) – club option
Erik Bedard (36)
Chad Billingsley (31)
Clay Buchholz (31) – $13MM club option with a $245K buyout
Mark Buehrle (37)
A.J. Burnett (39)
Trevor Cahill (28) – $13MM club option with a $300K buyout
Chris Capuano (37)
Jhoulys Chacin (28)
Wei-Yin Chen (30)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Johnny Cueto (30)
Ross Detwiler (30)
R.A. Dickey (41) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Marco Estrada (32)
Doug Fister (32)
Gavin Floyd (33)
Yovani Gallardo (30)
Jaime Garcia (29) – $11.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Zack Greinke (32) – can opt out of remaining three years/$71MM
Jeremy Guthrie (37) – $10MM mutual option with a $3.2MM buyout
J.A. Happ (33)
Aaron Harang (38)
Dan Haren (35)
Tim Hudson (40)
Hisashi Iwakuma (35)
Scott Kazmir (32)
Kyle Kendrick (31)
Ian Kennedy (31)
John Lackey (37)
Mat Latos (28)
Mike Leake (28)
Cliff Lee (37) – $27.5MM club/vesting option with a $12.5MM buyout
Tim Lincecum (32)
Kyle Lohse (37)
Corey Luebke (31) – $7.5MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout
Justin Masterson (31)
Brandon Morrow (31)
Bud Norris (31)
Mike Pelfrey (32)
David Price (30)
Ricky Romero (31) – $13.1MM club option with a $600K buyout
Jeff Samardzija (31)
Alfredo Simon (35)
Ryan Vogelsong (38)
Jerome Williams (34)
Chris Young (37)
Jordan Zimmermann (30)

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

at a loss for words as to what i think of Dave and the garbage BullPen he put together.

Smitty, Rondon is waaaaay worse than Joel Zumaya, IMO..