Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by Mistaken4193, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:39 AM.
As a Texas fan, I can appreciate jokes about bad offense
The way the rule reads...I don't believe that would be correct.
If he landed on a player who was out of bounds, and he never touched the ground himself
he wouldn't be considered out-of-bounds. Not until a portion of his body touched.
A player is not a part of the ground. He is a player.
I believe you are correct. I just read it and it specifically makes an exception for touching defenders or officials out of bounds. I have no idea what Gundy was talking about
I believe the intended interpretation of this rule is: if a player merely brushes against another player or official who is out of bounds (i.e. - a player's upper body, arm, or the side of his foot makes contact with an out-of-bounds person) then the player in motion is still inbounds; but if the player steps on an out-of-bounds person it would be the same as making contact with the ground out of bounds.
You may be correct. I don't 100% know. However I do know the definition of a player and I know if
I land on a player in the field of play and no part of my body (except feet) are touching the ground I
am not considered down.
Now it would be almost impossible for a player to upright himself without his feet touching out-of-bounds,
but if he could then the rule would be he was never out-of-bounds.
They don't change definitions, they add rules to cover all situations.
If a punt landed inbounds and then bounced in mid-air off the field of play but had not
yet touched out-of-bounds, and I was on the kicking team I could jump from the field
of play and before I landed could swat the ball 15 yards deeper back onto the field of
play. They don't change my definition they simply refer to a different rule...the different
rule in that instance would be "First Touching." The receiving team would be given the option
of taking over the ball where it was downed by the officials 15 yards further downfield or taking it at the
spot I first touched it. (That's the one they would opt for).
Is this the Woody Hayes rule?
I've read all this and come to the conclusion that you can "touch" a player out of bounds all you want, but you can't land on them. If you land on them while they are out of bounds, then you are out of bounds.
I don't see where the Georgia player landed on him at all.
That is what I thought but a read the rule
Player Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 1. a. A player is out of bounds when any part of his person touches
anything, other than another player or game official, on or outside a boundary
line (Rule 2-27-15) (A.R. 4-2-1-I and II).
b. An out-of-bounds player who becomes airborne remains out of bounds
until he touches the ground in bounds without simultaneously being out
c. A player who touches a pylon is out of bounds.
WHAT???????????????? A player is OOB if he touches a pylon? That can't be right. How many times have you seen a TD scored with the ball touching the pylon.
If you jump in the air, catch the ball, kick the pylon; you are out of bounds. The pylon is part of the lines.
That was from the NCAA site. Interesting to give that a Face Palm rating.
The pylon is also the goal-line, so if you touch the ball to the pylon it is crossing the plane of the goalline as well.
It's different than your feet doing it however.
In order to touch the pylon, you have to break the plane of the goal line. If you reach out with the ball and touch the pylon, you have broken the plane, which is why it is a touchdown.
Well, that is still not clear to me. If you are OOB you can't score a TD. Or do you score before to are OOB? I understand what the vertical plane of the goal line is, but someone said the pylon is a sideline and a goal line. How can it be both?Is it divided in 4 quarters? There is no way a ref, or a camera can see which quarter of the pylon the ball touches first. I not trying to be as ass, it just doesn't seem clear, and needs to be understood better. I'm not referring to anything that happened in the GA AL. game. I'm just asking about the statement that if a player touches a pylon, he is OOB. I don't see how it can be both.
I don't know how to explain it any better. it is impossible to touch the pylon without breaking the plane.
It's the point of intersection.
Not unless it's touch...which might be the case in 50 years the way we are headed.
True...but your team doesn't have 3 top 10 recruiting classes in the last 5 years.
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