Bob Welch's 1990 season

[Voltaire26]

Gibson and Brock were complete asses to the fans though. My uncle who was in the sport world got my cousin on the field at a Mets game to meet his idol Cardinals. gibson and Brock both went straight to security and started yelling about little punk kids being on the field.




You must have lost an AVI bet with that Smelly Burnt Foot fellow.

Like was said earlier McLain is a special kind of punk.

and yes, @SlinkyRedfoot and his Indians kicked my ass. 2 weeks of telling the world I love peckers.

 

[nynasty]

Meh. 35 starts, 2 CG.

Gimme Guidry's 1978. 35 starts, 16!! CG

3-0 with a 1.78 ERA against Boston (2 CG), including the win in game 163.

Ridiculous he didn't win MVP that year.

 

[Pure Steel]

Meh. 35 starts, 2 CG.

Gimme Guidry's 1978. 35 starts, 16!! CG

3-0 with a 1.78 ERA against Boston (2 CG), including the win in game 163.

Ridiculous he didn't win MVP that year.

You can sprinkle in 9 shutouts as well.....

 

[nynasty]

You can sprinkle in 9 shutouts as well.....

Definitely in the convo among most dominant seasons for a SP.

 

[molsaniceman]

Definitely in the convo among most dominant seasons for a SP.

but but he only won 25 games

 

[scoutyjones2]

He also sang Ebony Eyes which peaked at #14 in 1978.....

Yeah...awesome. Sentimental Lady and Hypnotized!

That's a talented individual!

 

[nynasty]

but but he only won 25 games

Pedro won 18 in 2000. That season is in the convo as well. Gotta look past wins.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Bob Gibson says big fucking deal

1968 went 22-9 with 1.12 era
28 CG 13 SO
from june 6 to july 30 11-0 all CG and gave up 3 runs

then they fixed the mound.

 

[Rock Strongo]

What's the standout stats? The lack of no decisions?


Scherzer only has two right now. And better numbers across the board.

27 wins
2 ND
sub 3.00 ERA

 

[Rock Strongo]

Meh. 35 starts, 2 CG.

Gimme Guidry's 1978. 35 starts, 16!! CG

3-0 with a 1.78 ERA against Boston (2 CG), including the win in game 163.

Ridiculous he didn't win MVP that year.

27 wins
2 ND
sub 3.00 ERA

thats what im after

 

[molsaniceman]

Pedro won 18 in 2000. That season is in the convo as well. Gotta look past wins.

it was sarcasm wins are a team stat not pitcher

2011 lackey went 12-12 with 6.49 era 28 starts
2012 lee went 6-9 with 3.16 era 30 starts

 

[Rock Strongo]

it was sarcasm wins are a team stat not pitcher

2011 lackey went 12-12 with 6.49 era 28 starts
2012 lee went 6-9 with 3.16 era 30 starts

lackey pitched on guts that year. he may be a POS off the field (his wife) but he earned my on the field respect that year.

and anyone who knows me knows how little i wanted him here.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Meh. 35 starts, 2 CG.

Gimme Guidry's 1978. 35 starts, 16!! CG

3-0 with a 1.78 ERA against Boston (2 CG), including the win in game 163.

Ridiculous he didn't win MVP that year.

Pitchers have their own MVP. I prefer the MVP going to a position player(so exclude DH's too)

 

[calsnowskier]

Pitchers have their own MVP. I prefer the MVP going to a position player(so exclude DH's too)

Co-sign.

Though I think there are rare occasions where a pitcher can win the MVP. Like when there is no clear position player to win it, THEN you start looking at pitchers. But if there is a batter who is in contention, he automatically beats out the pitcher.

 

[nynasty]

Co-sign.

Though I think there are rare occasions where a pitcher can win the MVP. Like when there is no clear position player to win it, THEN you start looking at pitchers. But if there is a batter who is in contention, he automatically beats out the pitcher.

1978 was definitely one of those rare occasions. Gid went 25-3 for a team that won 99 games and tied for the AL East. Then he went ahead and won the one game playoff, knocking the eventual MVP completely out of the post-season.

 

[Pure Steel]

1978 was definitely one of those rare occasions. Gid went 25-3 for a team that won 99 games and tied for the AL East. Then he went ahead and won the one game playoff, knocking the eventual MVP completely out of the post-season.

Rice did go 1-5 that day though.....

 

[molsaniceman]

1978 was definitely one of those rare occasions. Gid went 25-3 for a team that won 99 games and tied for the AL East. Then he went ahead and won the one game playoff, knocking the eventual MVP completely out of the post-season.

Rice led the league in Games(163)-PA-AB-H-3B-HR-RBI-SLG-OPS-OPS+and TB
plus he owned guidry .360 with 6 homers

 

[nynasty]

Rice led the league in Games(163)-PA-AB-H-3B-HR-RBI-SLG-OPS-OPS+and TB
plus he owned guidry .360 with 6 homers

Even in 1978, Rice was only a .269 hitter outside of the Fens.

Guidry's WAR was 9.6, Rice's 7.6

 

[Rock Strongo]

Even in 1978, Rice was only a .269 hitter outside of the Fens.

Guidry's WAR was 9.6, Rice's 7.6

.361 in fenway that year
28 of his homeruns
75 of his RBI

he also hit .313 in yankee stadium that year.

his road struggles were limited to a handful of teams that year

6 games in CAL, ,200 avg
5 in arlington, .063 avg
7 in toronto, .206 avg
5 in seattle, .105 avg
8 in baltimore, .161 avg

he didnt hit below .250 anywhere else, and his low above that .250 (5 game sin KC) he hit .263 in minny.

8 in cleveland, .324
5 in chicago, .364 avg
7 in milwaukee, .375 avg
5 in oakland, .455 avg
8 in detroit, .306 avg
7 in NYY, .313 avg

weird splits

oddly, he hit .192 on turf. 17 games.

 

[DragonfromTO]

.361 in fenway that year
28 of his homeruns
75 of his RBI

he also hit .313 in yankee stadium that year.

his road struggles were limited to a handful of teams that year

6 games in CAL, ,200 avg
5 in arlington, .063 avg
7 in toronto, .206 avg
5 in seattle, .105 avg
8 in baltimore, .161 avg

he didnt hit below .250 anywhere else, and his low above that .250 (5 game sin KC) he hit .263 in minny.

8 in cleveland, .324
5 in chicago, .364 avg
7 in milwaukee, .375 avg
5 in oakland, .455 avg
8 in detroit, .306 avg
7 in NYY, .313 avg

weird splits

oddly, he hit .192 on turf. 17 games.

Looking at 5-8 game samples can do that